owlcountry40 said

I base it on what I see I'm way more black and white.

Posted On: Dec 23rd 2014, 11:42 AM #340046

That's because you're not a fan.

fan [fan]  noun - an enthusiastic devotee

You're a fair weather critic who leans solely towards negative commentary as a baseline.

Just sayin…….

Rick said

owlcountry40 said

I base it on what I see I'm way more black and white.

Posted On: Dec 23rd 2014, 11:42 AM #340046

That's because you're not a fan.

fan [fan]  noun - an enthusiastic devotee

You're a fair weather critic who leans solely towards negative commentary as a baseline.

Just sayin…….

Posted On: Dec 23rd 2014, 12:09 PM #340047

+1 rick. Spot on. The team needs fans. Not people to criticize us & tear us down. 

owlcountry40 said

David Slavic said

I'd be shocked if Parr went to UM. With Brad Kaaya playing so well as a true freshmen, and probably playing another 2 years, Parr would be relegated to redshirting and playing backup for a while. Quez will be a senior next season, meaning Parr will have the opportunity for immediate playing time as a backup.

With respect to Charlie Partridge, I think you have to look at the university from top to bottom, not just the coach. John Kelly is from Clemson and understands the athletic department is key to the overall health of the university, Patrick Chun is from OSU, which has something like a legit football program going right now, and Partidge is an unproven head coach, but he's been a coordinator at very well respected programs. While it didn't show up in wins, the program is in a much better position now than when Saunders, Angelo, and Pelini were here. Plus, Partridge can recruit. Now, whether or not he needs to make some changes at coordinator, that'll remain to be seen next season.

Most of our losses to comparable programs were late losses due to blown plays. If we had grown up and been more mentally prepared, we'd be saying that Partridge is the greatest coach we'd ever had, and his coordinators are all future head coaches.

I think we're headed in the right direction. We'll know next year I guess.

Posted On: Dec 23rd 2014, 9:37 AM #340035

See this is my issue you guys base the right direction things based on hope and some belief.
I base it on what I see I'm way more black and white.
And all I have seen is 6-6 team that was taken to 3-9 that's all. 
None of you guys base your right direction ideas on is based on anything real other then words.
When I see a 9 win teams I'll buy in.

Posted On: Dec 23rd 2014, 11:42 AM #340046

Yeah, you could look only at the win-loss column before judging the direction of the program. But then you're not looking so much at where it's headed, but where it already is. I think we're GOING to be in the 9-3 ballpark in the next year or two, because of the things I mentioned above. I didn't even mention that right now we have one of the best recruiting classes in program history, in large part due to Charlie Partridge. Bringing talent to the program is a big step, and helps attract bigger talent in 2016, 2017, etc.

owlcountry40 said

David Slavic said

I'd be shocked if Parr went to UM. With Brad Kaaya playing so well as a true freshmen, and probably playing another 2 years, Parr would be relegated to redshirting and playing backup for a while. Quez will be a senior next season, meaning Parr will have the opportunity for immediate playing time as a backup.

With respect to Charlie Partridge, I think you have to look at the university from top to bottom, not just the coach. John Kelly is from Clemson and understands the athletic department is key to the overall health of the university, Patrick Chun is from OSU, which has something like a legit football program going right now, and Partidge is an unproven head coach, but he's been a coordinator at very well respected programs. While it didn't show up in wins, the program is in a much better position now than when Saunders, Angelo, and Pelini were here. Plus, Partridge can recruit. Now, whether or not he needs to make some changes at coordinator, that'll remain to be seen next season.

Most of our losses to comparable programs were late losses due to blown plays. If we had grown up and been more mentally prepared, we'd be saying that Partridge is the greatest coach we'd ever had, and his coordinators are all future head coaches.

I think we're headed in the right direction. We'll know next year I guess.

Posted On: Dec 23rd 2014, 9:37 AM #340035

See this is my issue you guys base the right direction things based on hope and some belief.
I base it on what I see I'm way more black and white.
And all I have seen is 6-6 team that was taken to 3-9 that's all.
None of you guys base your right direction ideas on is based on anything real other then words.
When I see a 9 win teams I'll buy in.

Posted On: Dec 23rd 2014, 11:42 AM #340046

Our issue with you is that you only look at the facts that suits your negative and tear down attitude.  You have been very critical of the recruiting classes of Howard and Coke Head.  When you have 10 freshman or redshirt freshman on your end of year two deep roster that is not a recipe for success.  You love recruiting, I think we are basing our optimism on the recruiting Charlie has done.  If you were the athletic director we would be flat out broke buying out contracts and a program in total turmoil because any candidate would know that their would be know acceptance of building anything lasting.

owlcountry40 said

David Slavic said

I'd be shocked if Parr went to UM. With Brad Kaaya playing so well as a true freshmen, and probably playing another 2 years, Parr would be relegated to redshirting and playing backup for a while. Quez will be a senior next season, meaning Parr will have the opportunity for immediate playing time as a backup.

With respect to Charlie Partridge, I think you have to look at the university from top to bottom, not just the coach. John Kelly is from Clemson and understands the athletic department is key to the overall health of the university, Patrick Chun is from OSU, which has something like a legit football program going right now, and Partidge is an unproven head coach, but he's been a coordinator at very well respected programs. While it didn't show up in wins, the program is in a much better position now than when Saunders, Angelo, and Pelini were here. Plus, Partridge can recruit. Now, whether or not he needs to make some changes at coordinator, that'll remain to be seen next season.

Most of our losses to comparable programs were late losses due to blown plays. If we had grown up and been more mentally prepared, we'd be saying that Partridge is the greatest coach we'd ever had, and his coordinators are all future head coaches.

I think we're headed in the right direction. We'll know next year I guess.

Posted On: Dec 23rd 2014, 9:37 AM #340035

See this is my issue you guys base the right direction things based on hope and some belief.
I base it on what I see I'm way more black and white.
And all I have seen is 6-6 team that was taken to 3-9 that's all. 
None of you guys base your right direction ideas on is based on anything real other then words.
When I see a 9 win teams I'll buy in.

Posted On: Dec 23rd 2014, 11:42 AM #340046

It's also important to remember that FAU played it's first game in 2001. So we've only had 13 seasons of play. I got my masters at Alabama, and by comparison, the Tide played their first season in 1892. It takes a lot of time to build a program that is truly great. Even teams that are really good teams like Oregon don't have the sustained tradition and even alumni base to compare to the few cornerstones of college football (Alabama, Michigan, Notre Dame, Ohio State, USC, etc.). So being realistic, we're one of the youngest teams to ever go to a bowl game, undefeated in bowl games, and starting to play more and more competitively with powerhouse programs. Besides, there was so much turmoil last season and over the offseason, that it makes a lot of sense to have a poor season this year.

This thread has gone in the complete opposite direction than the way I thought it would.

I have no idea if Parr sticks (I think he will) but the visit to Miami means there is genuine interest from both parties. Kids tweet stuff all the time. 

I posted the details regarding the situation because it is very unique. I've actually been waiting for this to happen somewhere in the country (I knew the rules) and Parr just happened to be the first I became aware of.

I think someone posted the NCAA needs to change the rules, and they really do. Because this is going to keep happening.

Miami is desperate to find a quarterback right now (even looking at a Ball State commit) and Parr is a guy they got on campus.

My guess is they are going to push an FAA after Xmas and the 'Canes bowl game.

Will Parr sign it? 

Who knows. But bottom line right now, is that this isn't over until he's on campus and taking ENC 1101. 

Partridge & Co. can call Parr all they want. Al Golden on the other hand, has to wait for Parr to call him.

And I think the Kaya talk is overplayed. Kaya will be 3 and out. Parr would be able to redshirt and then play one year behind Kaya. It's an easy sell.

I know, I know — he could be the face of FAU. But he could also get a private education at UM and play for James Coley, who apparently knows how to mold quarterbacks (see Kaya).

Andrew, these threads can go on a tangent for no apparent reason. My feeling is that Parr will be an Owl. Like a lot of young guys, he is checking things out. I truly think Miami would be a mistake for him . At the C-USA level he could grow into a star. Much like Cato and Doughrty ( -5 sp) fromWKU.  Yes Miami is "The Canes", but very few make it to the pros and he should stay where he can make the biggest impact and best impression. He could end up being the local star that helped FAU get over the hump. At Miami , he would have to wait, beat out the next in line , and then have a couple of years to play and make a name for himself. There is no better way to get better than to play and at FAU he will play. JMHO   (P.S. OC40 can have whatever opinion he wants. This is an open forum. If you filter through a lot of his junk, many times he is correct.)

Local Owl said

Andrew, these threads can go on a tangent for no apparent reason. My feeling is that Parr will be an Owl. Like a lot of young guys, he is checking things out. I truly think Miami would be a mistake for him . At the C-USA level he could grow into a star. Much like Cato and Doughrty ( -5 sp) fromWKU.  Yes Miami is "The Canes", but very few make it to the pros and he should stay where he can make the biggest impact and best impression. He could end up being the local star that helped FAU get over the hump. At Miami , he would have to wait, beat out the next in line , and then have a couple of years to play and make a name for himself. There is no better way to get better than to play and at FAU he will play. JMHO   (P.S. OC40 can have whatever opinion he wants. This is an open forum. If you filter through a lot of his junk, many times he is correct.)

Posted On: Dec 23rd 2014, 4:12 PM #340063

Agreed.
Parr has a chance to be the next Rusty smith (if we give him great receivers to work with)

As for OC40, I understand where he's coming from. And like anyone, you would want to see results right now, rather than next year. We've all had high expectations for this year following our explosive run late in the season. I was disappointed how this season turned out, but unlike OC40, I'm very optimistic about the future. I expect a 8 or 9 win season in 2016. GO OWLS!!!!

I think OC40 must be from Missouri. He has that "show me" thing going on.  If he sees the program turning around he will become a believer. Can't blame him for being a skeptic.

Andrew…what do you mean by Kaaya being a three and out guy. You think he will go pro after three years ? I didn't see that kind of play this year.  Maybe if he really improves next year. I don't think he is so talented that he doesn't stay all four years.