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Ok there has been some talk on the nest debating how long it takes to get a real idea of what kind of head coach you have.
Some want to give a head coach for ever before you shrug your shoulders and say "maybe he isn't  the one".
I on the other hand I realize you don't need to give a coach that long to decide whether you is worth it or long.

So I did some research to see what all the 2nd year head coaches did in 2014.
The numbers to were a bit shocking to me on how much 2nd year coaches improved from there 1st year.

Out of 25
16 Improved there team by 2 games or more accounting for 52 more wins from the year before.
Only 4 coaches got worse from year 1 to 2 and two of those coaches took over from programs that were successful before they arrived and the coach before went onto larger program for example San Jose Head coach Ron Gragher.
There were 4 2nd year coaches in C-USA last year.
Ron Tuner had a 3 game improvement.
Skip Holtz had a 5 game improvement.
Todd Monken  won 2more games.
Sean Kugler had 5 more wins from year one.
Other notable coaches with 2nd year success.
Some other Notable improvements.

Bret Bielema (Who Charlie coached under)won 4 more games in the SEC west.

PJ Fleck went from 1-11 in year one to 8-5 ( Has a lot of South Florida recruiting ties.)  

Mark Rhule went from 2-10 to 6-6( If he can do it with Temple Owls we should be good in Boca)

Scott Satterfield went 4-8 his first year with then FCS App St then won 7 with FBS App St in his 2nd year.

Many of these coaches did not have the luxury of taking over a bowl eligible team in the best area for recruiting in the country or was able to keep an interim head coach who won 4 games the year before.

In my eyes this 2nd year will show what impact he has made on the program.
He has now had 20 months to make his changes and lets see what he has.

Some say he "needs 3-4 years to get all his guys"
Many coaches prove that he can do it with his guys and get more out of the players that were there before him. (This is what Charlie needs to prove)

I OC40 has faith we will see a strong OWL football team this year (7-8 WINS) anything less some changes will need to be made going into year three.

(I do not need to tell you this I am sure you know) I will stop accepting meritocracy this season!!

GO OWLS!!  
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How many of those coaches are first time head coaches?

As I said, doubling the win total from last year at a minimum would be success in my opinion.

Anything less than 6 wins is a failure of a season, unless its due to serious injuries.

Teambeer is the most knowledgeable FAU sports fan I know, way smarter than me.
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owlcountry40 said

I will stop except meritocracy this season!!
Posted On: Aug 14th 2015, 2:48 PM #347205

This is very close to post of the day material.
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Rick said

owlcountry40 said

I will stop except meritocracy this season!!
Posted On: Aug 14th 2015, 2:48 PM #347205

This is very close to post of the day material.
Posted On: Aug 14th 2015, 3:28 PM #347208


Did that post from my phone wow you got me. 

Waltz Idk how many coaches were 1st year guys,but I did find G5 coaches excelled faster.
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owlcountry40 said

Did that post from my phone wow you got me. 
Posted On: Aug 14th 2015, 3:40 PM #347209

It was hilarious, I actually laughed out loud…seriously.

BTW, that's a huge mobile post. Hats off for the patience!

 :Laughing:
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You need to get a computer.
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Rick said

owlcountry40 said

I will stop except meritocracy this season!!
Posted On: Aug 14th 2015, 2:48 PM #347205

This is very close to post of the day material.
Posted On: Aug 14th 2015, 3:28 PM #347208



I would seriously wear this as a t-shirt
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owlcountry40 said


Did that post from my phone wow you got me. 

Posted On: Aug 14th 2015, 3:40 PM #347209

You really have to stop trying to type on that flip phone!
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Owlcountry. Nice summary of second year head coaches. Let's hope we are fortunate enough to have the same success as Skip, Turner and others! Go Owls!!! 
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CP has changed the perception and direction of our program in a short time….I feel pretty good about our program right now.  Don't need 9 wins this year…need the momentum to continue.  Six wins does that.

Teambeer is the most knowledgeable FAU sports fan I know, way smarter than me.
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