Jules, stop posting here. You’ve been condescending to multiple people as if you have no realization that this is not the place. Since unbelievably you haven’t been banned, how about you take my advice and leave.

JulesFIU07 said

NJOWL said

JulesFIU07 said

NJOWL said

JulesFIU07 said

GeorgiaOwl said

On a rival teams board? Ya think??  

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 2:31 PM #387032

Haha, it isn’t even like I trashed PBC, all I really said is that Miami is doing really well; and I certainly didn’t trash FAU, but I guess it is hard for some people to hear that FIU is doing ok too?  

I don’t know, if it makes people feel better to think of FIU as an institution on the precipice of collapse; and Miami as some Syria-like war zone that people are fleeing from and avoiding, despite the better than 10% population growth rate and rising property values, so be it.

I just wanted to set the record straight.

Anyway, I don’t know what the AAC has planned.  I am sure ESPN can renegotiate their contract, which might force them to add a school, but how they go about doing that, I have no idea.

If all they care about is available eyes on screens, the only two big markets they don’t hit are Atlanta and Miami.  If they care about gaps in the map they are probably looking at ODU, UAB, or MTSU.  If they care about sustained success and a strong following then App State is probably your best bet.

Really it is a crap shoot.

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 5:16 PM #387037

No one said fiu is not doing well. Your statements regarding the surround area not mattering, however, are a bit ridiculous. We have gotten multiple recruits over you just because of the area surrounding fiu (according to those recruit's parents (Ocie Rose and an offensive lineman whose name escapes me to name just two).

As for your statements re: Miami doing better than Palm Beach County in terms of growth and/or welath, I direct you to this article: In Miami, There Are Too Many Condos and Not Enough Foreign Buyers - WSJ.

Also this one regarding Palm Beach: Palm Beach Notches Big-Ticket Home Sales - WSJ.

Regarding Boca specifically from two years ago: Shedding Seinfeld Stereotypes, Boca Property Developers Court Younger Crowd - WSJ

And perhaps the best one from CNBC regarding Boca as the next Miami: Behind Florida real estate

I think most at this point know that Miami is not what it used to be. And the fact that you mention Downtown Miami as a redeeming quality is mind boggling. I used to work in Downtown Miami and there could not have been more homeless people. No socialite or person of wealth would be there past 6 or 7 pm leaving work.

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 5:48 PM #387040

Oy…

…1Q - 2019 Palm Beach Sales Market Report | Douglas Elliman

http://www.miamidda.com/wp-content/uploads/MDDA_DemoPopReport_05072018.pdf

Hope actual reports provide greater insight for those that are actually interested in keeping up to date on the data.

But hey, you talked to a guy in an airport…

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 8:13 PM #387051

You didn’t read my post at all. The airport examples were anecdotal of the other articles referenced.

Your palm beach article has sales up 6%.

Your downtown Miami article includes the greater Miami article rather than just downtown Miami. 

The point remains: the vibrance and viability of Miami as a city is 30-40 minutes away from fiu and wants nothing to do with you. FAU has had multiple million dollar donations in the past year from people in the local community that just like FAU. 

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 10:48 PM #387066

Ugh, there are multiple reports on the first link, please click through them.

The second one shows massive population growth in that Downtown you detest, and shows a median household income of $120,000.

Donations, we have those too.  The Green School of International and Public Affairs, $15 million donation.  The Leon Family Ambulatory Care Center, $10 million donation.  The Frost Art Museum, I think that was a smaller one at five million.  The Chaplin School of Hospitality Management, $20 million, and they gave us the South Beach Wine and Food Festival, which raises about $2 million a year for us.  The Wertheim College of Medicine, $40 million.

You know the amazing thing, those are all rich people who have nothing to do with FIU other than living in Dade County.

So once again, whatever makes you feel better.

Posted On: Jul 1st 2019, 6:25 AM #387070

That report shows greater Miami and caps it downtown. Seems skewed. 

Nevertheless, what does a “downtown Miami” 30 minutes from fiu have to do with fiu? 

This is like Rutgers actually claiming NYC. 

NJOWL said

JulesFIU07 said

NJOWL said

JulesFIU07 said

NJOWL said

JulesFIU07 said

GeorgiaOwl said

On a rival teams board? Ya think??  

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 2:31 PM #387032

Haha, it isn’t even like I trashed PBC, all I really said is that Miami is doing really well; and I certainly didn’t trash FAU, but I guess it is hard for some people to hear that FIU is doing ok too?  

I don’t know, if it makes people feel better to think of FIU as an institution on the precipice of collapse; and Miami as some Syria-like war zone that people are fleeing from and avoiding, despite the better than 10% population growth rate and rising property values, so be it.

I just wanted to set the record straight.

Anyway, I don’t know what the AAC has planned.  I am sure ESPN can renegotiate their contract, which might force them to add a school, but how they go about doing that, I have no idea.

If all they care about is available eyes on screens, the only two big markets they don’t hit are Atlanta and Miami.  If they care about gaps in the map they are probably looking at ODU, UAB, or MTSU.  If they care about sustained success and a strong following then App State is probably your best bet.

Really it is a crap shoot.

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 5:16 PM #387037

No one said fiu is not doing well. Your statements regarding the surround area not mattering, however, are a bit ridiculous. We have gotten multiple recruits over you just because of the area surrounding fiu (according to those recruit's parents (Ocie Rose and an offensive lineman whose name escapes me to name just two).

As for your statements re: Miami doing better than Palm Beach County in terms of growth and/or welath, I direct you to this article: In Miami, There Are Too Many Condos and Not Enough Foreign Buyers - WSJ.

Also this one regarding Palm Beach: Palm Beach Notches Big-Ticket Home Sales - WSJ.

Regarding Boca specifically from two years ago: Shedding Seinfeld Stereotypes, Boca Property Developers Court Younger Crowd - WSJ

And perhaps the best one from CNBC regarding Boca as the next Miami: Behind Florida real estate

I think most at this point know that Miami is not what it used to be. And the fact that you mention Downtown Miami as a redeeming quality is mind boggling. I used to work in Downtown Miami and there could not have been more homeless people. No socialite or person of wealth would be there past 6 or 7 pm leaving work.

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 5:48 PM #387040

Oy…

…1Q - 2019 Palm Beach Sales Market Report | Douglas Elliman

http://www.miamidda.com/wp-content/uploads/MDDA_DemoPopReport_05072018.pdf

Hope actual reports provide greater insight for those that are actually interested in keeping up to date on the data.

But hey, you talked to a guy in an airport…

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 8:13 PM #387051

You didn’t read my post at all. The airport examples were anecdotal of the other articles referenced.

Your palm beach article has sales up 6%.

Your downtown Miami article includes the greater Miami article rather than just downtown Miami. 

The point remains: the vibrance and viability of Miami as a city is 30-40 minutes away from fiu and wants nothing to do with you. FAU has had multiple million dollar donations in the past year from people in the local community that just like FAU. 

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 10:48 PM #387066

Ugh, there are multiple reports on the first link, please click through them.

The second one shows massive population growth in that Downtown you detest, and shows a median household income of $120,000.

Donations, we have those too.  The Green School of International and Public Affairs, $15 million donation.  The Leon Family Ambulatory Care Center, $10 million donation.  The Frost Art Museum, I think that was a smaller one at five million.  The Chaplin School of Hospitality Management, $20 million, and they gave us the South Beach Wine and Food Festival, which raises about $2 million a year for us.  The Wertheim College of Medicine, $40 million.

You know the amazing thing, those are all rich people who have nothing to do with FIU other than living in Dade County.

So once again, whatever makes you feel better.

Posted On: Jul 1st 2019, 6:25 AM #387070

That report shows greater Miami and caps it downtown. Seems skewed. 

Nevertheless, what does a “downtown Miami” 30 minutes from fiu have to do with fiu? 

This is like Rutgers actually claiming NYC. 

Posted On: Jul 1st 2019, 9:14 AM #387076

I guess about as much as Palm Beach Gardens, Jupiter, and Palm Beach have to do with FAU?

Are you operating under the assumption that FIU students exclusively come from Sweetwater and alums exclusively live in Sweetwater?

jgf2017 said

Jules, stop posting here. You’ve been condescending to multiple people as if you have no realization that this is not the place. Since unbelievably you haven’t been banned, how about you take my advice and leave.

Posted On: Jul 1st 2019, 8:55 AM #387075

Do you wish to exist in an echo-chamber? Intelligent men can disagree, I find it refreshing to have the opinion from a rival, particularly about how they are viewing their chances at realignment. It could have been informative before all of you guys went off the reservation about what university has the best median household income within 24 miles.

Obviously both groups have statistics on why one city is better than the other, and that's the beauty of personal choice (we've all gathered why you left Dade county!). There is empirical data that says Miami is a better media market, FIU has more students, a greater endowment and larger budget. We have them on the field these last few years, I take solace in that…but if it comes down to brass tacks and historical selection criteria, they're getting selected over us. Lest we forget, they held the ladder for us to make the jump to D1. Thankfully, the AAC doesn't seem that is going to happen for them either, so we'll all wait and see what happens.

I am a firm believer that your rival doing well (save but one week per season) is good for you as well. I continue to want to see them succeed, and on 11/9/19, I want them dead. Until then, I love hearing about what's going through their minds while things are up in the air.

JulesFIU07 said

NJOWL said

JulesFIU07 said

NJOWL said

JulesFIU07 said

NJOWL said

JulesFIU07 said

GeorgiaOwl said

On a rival teams board? Ya think??  

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 2:31 PM #387032

Haha, it isn’t even like I trashed PBC, all I really said is that Miami is doing really well; and I certainly didn’t trash FAU, but I guess it is hard for some people to hear that FIU is doing ok too?  

I don’t know, if it makes people feel better to think of FIU as an institution on the precipice of collapse; and Miami as some Syria-like war zone that people are fleeing from and avoiding, despite the better than 10% population growth rate and rising property values, so be it.

I just wanted to set the record straight.

Anyway, I don’t know what the AAC has planned.  I am sure ESPN can renegotiate their contract, which might force them to add a school, but how they go about doing that, I have no idea.

If all they care about is available eyes on screens, the only two big markets they don’t hit are Atlanta and Miami.  If they care about gaps in the map they are probably looking at ODU, UAB, or MTSU.  If they care about sustained success and a strong following then App State is probably your best bet.

Really it is a crap shoot.

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 5:16 PM #387037

No one said fiu is not doing well. Your statements regarding the surround area not mattering, however, are a bit ridiculous. We have gotten multiple recruits over you just because of the area surrounding fiu (according to those recruit's parents (Ocie Rose and an offensive lineman whose name escapes me to name just two).

As for your statements re: Miami doing better than Palm Beach County in terms of growth and/or welath, I direct you to this article: In Miami, There Are Too Many Condos and Not Enough Foreign Buyers - WSJ.

Also this one regarding Palm Beach: Palm Beach Notches Big-Ticket Home Sales - WSJ.

Regarding Boca specifically from two years ago: Shedding Seinfeld Stereotypes, Boca Property Developers Court Younger Crowd - WSJ

And perhaps the best one from CNBC regarding Boca as the next Miami: Behind Florida real estate

I think most at this point know that Miami is not what it used to be. And the fact that you mention Downtown Miami as a redeeming quality is mind boggling. I used to work in Downtown Miami and there could not have been more homeless people. No socialite or person of wealth would be there past 6 or 7 pm leaving work.

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 5:48 PM #387040

Oy…

…1Q - 2019 Palm Beach Sales Market Report | Douglas Elliman

http://www.miamidda.com/wp-content/uploads/MDDA_DemoPopReport_05072018.pdf

Hope actual reports provide greater insight for those that are actually interested in keeping up to date on the data.

But hey, you talked to a guy in an airport…

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 8:13 PM #387051

You didn’t read my post at all. The airport examples were anecdotal of the other articles referenced.

Your palm beach article has sales up 6%.

Your downtown Miami article includes the greater Miami article rather than just downtown Miami. 

The point remains: the vibrance and viability of Miami as a city is 30-40 minutes away from fiu and wants nothing to do with you. FAU has had multiple million dollar donations in the past year from people in the local community that just like FAU. 

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 10:48 PM #387066

Ugh, there are multiple reports on the first link, please click through them.

The second one shows massive population growth in that Downtown you detest, and shows a median household income of $120,000.

Donations, we have those too.  The Green School of International and Public Affairs, $15 million donation.  The Leon Family Ambulatory Care Center, $10 million donation.  The Frost Art Museum, I think that was a smaller one at five million.  The Chaplin School of Hospitality Management, $20 million, and they gave us the South Beach Wine and Food Festival, which raises about $2 million a year for us.  The Wertheim College of Medicine, $40 million.

You know the amazing thing, those are all rich people who have nothing to do with FIU other than living in Dade County.

So once again, whatever makes you feel better.

Posted On: Jul 1st 2019, 6:25 AM #387070

That report shows greater Miami and caps it downtown. Seems skewed. 

Nevertheless, what does a “downtown Miami” 30 minutes from fiu have to do with fiu? 

This is like Rutgers actually claiming NYC. 

Posted On: Jul 1st 2019, 9:14 AM #387076

I guess about as much as Palm Beach Gardens, Jupiter, and Palm Beach have to do with FAU?

Are you operating under the assumption that FIU students exclusively come from Sweetwater and alums exclusively live in Sweetwater?

Posted On: Jul 1st 2019, 9:24 AM #387077

Haha that's completely inaccurate. FAU has a major science campus up in Jupiter (Wilkes Honors College). They're building new dorms, research labs and classrooms. They're hiring a bunch of new researchers/professors and trying up to bring enrollment to 3000+ students.

faufan2017 said

JulesFIU07 said

NJOWL said

JulesFIU07 said

NJOWL said

JulesFIU07 said

NJOWL said

JulesFIU07 said

GeorgiaOwl said

On a rival teams board? Ya think??  

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 2:31 PM #387032

Haha, it isn’t even like I trashed PBC, all I really said is that Miami is doing really well; and I certainly didn’t trash FAU, but I guess it is hard for some people to hear that FIU is doing ok too?  

I don’t know, if it makes people feel better to think of FIU as an institution on the precipice of collapse; and Miami as some Syria-like war zone that people are fleeing from and avoiding, despite the better than 10% population growth rate and rising property values, so be it.

I just wanted to set the record straight.

Anyway, I don’t know what the AAC has planned.  I am sure ESPN can renegotiate their contract, which might force them to add a school, but how they go about doing that, I have no idea.

If all they care about is available eyes on screens, the only two big markets they don’t hit are Atlanta and Miami.  If they care about gaps in the map they are probably looking at ODU, UAB, or MTSU.  If they care about sustained success and a strong following then App State is probably your best bet.

Really it is a crap shoot.

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 5:16 PM #387037

No one said fiu is not doing well. Your statements regarding the surround area not mattering, however, are a bit ridiculous. We have gotten multiple recruits over you just because of the area surrounding fiu (according to those recruit's parents (Ocie Rose and an offensive lineman whose name escapes me to name just two).

As for your statements re: Miami doing better than Palm Beach County in terms of growth and/or welath, I direct you to this article: In Miami, There Are Too Many Condos and Not Enough Foreign Buyers - WSJ.

Also this one regarding Palm Beach: Palm Beach Notches Big-Ticket Home Sales - WSJ.

Regarding Boca specifically from two years ago: Shedding Seinfeld Stereotypes, Boca Property Developers Court Younger Crowd - WSJ

And perhaps the best one from CNBC regarding Boca as the next Miami: Behind Florida real estate

I think most at this point know that Miami is not what it used to be. And the fact that you mention Downtown Miami as a redeeming quality is mind boggling. I used to work in Downtown Miami and there could not have been more homeless people. No socialite or person of wealth would be there past 6 or 7 pm leaving work.

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 5:48 PM #387040

Oy…

…1Q - 2019 Palm Beach Sales Market Report | Douglas Elliman

http://www.miamidda.com/wp-content/uploads/MDDA_DemoPopReport_05072018.pdf

Hope actual reports provide greater insight for those that are actually interested in keeping up to date on the data.

But hey, you talked to a guy in an airport…

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 8:13 PM #387051

You didn’t read my post at all. The airport examples were anecdotal of the other articles referenced.

Your palm beach article has sales up 6%.

Your downtown Miami article includes the greater Miami article rather than just downtown Miami. 

The point remains: the vibrance and viability of Miami as a city is 30-40 minutes away from fiu and wants nothing to do with you. FAU has had multiple million dollar donations in the past year from people in the local community that just like FAU. 

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 10:48 PM #387066

Ugh, there are multiple reports on the first link, please click through them.

The second one shows massive population growth in that Downtown you detest, and shows a median household income of $120,000.

Donations, we have those too.  The Green School of International and Public Affairs, $15 million donation.  The Leon Family Ambulatory Care Center, $10 million donation.  The Frost Art Museum, I think that was a smaller one at five million.  The Chaplin School of Hospitality Management, $20 million, and they gave us the South Beach Wine and Food Festival, which raises about $2 million a year for us.  The Wertheim College of Medicine, $40 million.

You know the amazing thing, those are all rich people who have nothing to do with FIU other than living in Dade County.

So once again, whatever makes you feel better.

Posted On: Jul 1st 2019, 6:25 AM #387070

That report shows greater Miami and caps it downtown. Seems skewed. 

Nevertheless, what does a “downtown Miami” 30 minutes from fiu have to do with fiu? 

This is like Rutgers actually claiming NYC. 

Posted On: Jul 1st 2019, 9:14 AM #387076

I guess about as much as Palm Beach Gardens, Jupiter, and Palm Beach have to do with FAU?

Are you operating under the assumption that FIU students exclusively come from Sweetwater and alums exclusively live in Sweetwater?

Posted On: Jul 1st 2019, 9:24 AM #387077

Haha that's completely inaccurate. FAU has a major science campus up in Jupiter (Wilkes Honors College). They're building new dorms, research labs and classrooms. They're hiring a bunch of new researchers/professors and trying up to bring enrollment to 3000+ students.

Posted On: Jul 1st 2019, 10:19 AM #387080

I believe our Jupiter campus has one of the only campuses that has both a Scripps and Max Planck research institutes. FAU | MPHP. The Jupiter campus also had its best enrollment this year ever.

Students at FAU are increasingly coming from the northeast and all around Florida.

Can you speak to the same for fiu? Or is fiu still combatting the same apathetic student body? I still find it amazing that every year we play y'all down there the FAU fans outnumber the fiu fans by far. Your stadium had about 5000 actual bodies there and I had to wait 45 minutes to get into the stadium and both endzones were tarped off. A down year for us and an up year for you and we still far out numbered you.

jgf2017 said

Jules, stop posting here…how about you take my advice and leave.

Posted On: Jul 1st 2019, 8:55 AM #387075

Please see first paragraph, first sentence, regarding acceptable interaction behavior:

Forum Rules

You've crossed the line in four ways now, I have received multiple complaints, and this is the final request and warning.

faufan2017 said

JulesFIU07 said

NJOWL said

JulesFIU07 said

NJOWL said

JulesFIU07 said

NJOWL said

JulesFIU07 said

GeorgiaOwl said

On a rival teams board? Ya think??  

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 2:31 PM #387032

Haha, it isn’t even like I trashed PBC, all I really said is that Miami is doing really well; and I certainly didn’t trash FAU, but I guess it is hard for some people to hear that FIU is doing ok too?  

I don’t know, if it makes people feel better to think of FIU as an institution on the precipice of collapse; and Miami as some Syria-like war zone that people are fleeing from and avoiding, despite the better than 10% population growth rate and rising property values, so be it.

I just wanted to set the record straight.

Anyway, I don’t know what the AAC has planned.  I am sure ESPN can renegotiate their contract, which might force them to add a school, but how they go about doing that, I have no idea.

If all they care about is available eyes on screens, the only two big markets they don’t hit are Atlanta and Miami.  If they care about gaps in the map they are probably looking at ODU, UAB, or MTSU.  If they care about sustained success and a strong following then App State is probably your best bet.

Really it is a crap shoot.

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 5:16 PM #387037

No one said fiu is not doing well. Your statements regarding the surround area not mattering, however, are a bit ridiculous. We have gotten multiple recruits over you just because of the area surrounding fiu (according to those recruit's parents (Ocie Rose and an offensive lineman whose name escapes me to name just two).

As for your statements re: Miami doing better than Palm Beach County in terms of growth and/or welath, I direct you to this article: In Miami, There Are Too Many Condos and Not Enough Foreign Buyers - WSJ.

Also this one regarding Palm Beach: Palm Beach Notches Big-Ticket Home Sales - WSJ.

Regarding Boca specifically from two years ago: Shedding Seinfeld Stereotypes, Boca Property Developers Court Younger Crowd - WSJ

And perhaps the best one from CNBC regarding Boca as the next Miami: Behind Florida real estate

I think most at this point know that Miami is not what it used to be. And the fact that you mention Downtown Miami as a redeeming quality is mind boggling. I used to work in Downtown Miami and there could not have been more homeless people. No socialite or person of wealth would be there past 6 or 7 pm leaving work.

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 5:48 PM #387040

Oy…

…1Q - 2019 Palm Beach Sales Market Report | Douglas Elliman

http://www.miamidda.com/wp-content/uploads/MDDA_DemoPopReport_05072018.pdf

Hope actual reports provide greater insight for those that are actually interested in keeping up to date on the data.

But hey, you talked to a guy in an airport…

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 8:13 PM #387051

You didn’t read my post at all. The airport examples were anecdotal of the other articles referenced.

Your palm beach article has sales up 6%.

Your downtown Miami article includes the greater Miami article rather than just downtown Miami. 

The point remains: the vibrance and viability of Miami as a city is 30-40 minutes away from fiu and wants nothing to do with you. FAU has had multiple million dollar donations in the past year from people in the local community that just like FAU. 

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 10:48 PM #387066

Ugh, there are multiple reports on the first link, please click through them.

The second one shows massive population growth in that Downtown you detest, and shows a median household income of $120,000.

Donations, we have those too.  The Green School of International and Public Affairs, $15 million donation.  The Leon Family Ambulatory Care Center, $10 million donation.  The Frost Art Museum, I think that was a smaller one at five million.  The Chaplin School of Hospitality Management, $20 million, and they gave us the South Beach Wine and Food Festival, which raises about $2 million a year for us.  The Wertheim College of Medicine, $40 million.

You know the amazing thing, those are all rich people who have nothing to do with FIU other than living in Dade County.

So once again, whatever makes you feel better.

Posted On: Jul 1st 2019, 6:25 AM #387070

That report shows greater Miami and caps it downtown. Seems skewed. 

Nevertheless, what does a “downtown Miami” 30 minutes from fiu have to do with fiu? 

This is like Rutgers actually claiming NYC. 

Posted On: Jul 1st 2019, 9:14 AM #387076

I guess about as much as Palm Beach Gardens, Jupiter, and Palm Beach have to do with FAU?

Are you operating under the assumption that FIU students exclusively come from Sweetwater and alums exclusively live in Sweetwater?

Posted On: Jul 1st 2019, 9:24 AM #387077

Haha that's completely inaccurate. FAU has a major science campus up in Jupiter (Wilkes Honors College). They're building new dorms, research labs and classrooms. They're hiring a bunch of new researchers/professors and trying up to bring enrollment to 3000+ students.

Posted On: Jul 1st 2019, 10:19 AM #387080

I would retort that FIU has academic centers on Brickell Ave in Downtown Miami, and two museums and an academic center in Miami Beach.

Additionally, we have campuses in Miramar, which I think is similar to your Davie campus; and in North Miami.  The latter, our Biscayne Bay Campus is home to about 12,000 students and has about 1,000 dorm and university affiliated beds near it, with more on the way.

I am a little surprised that some here think that FIU is strictly confined to SW 8th and 107th Ave.  We, like you, are a regional university that services a large geographic area.  Like you our students are primarily drawn from the local community, with some notable influx of out of state and international students.  Like you our alums live across SE Florida.

As I said before, we aren’t so different.

Shane Marinelli OC40 said

d-owl said

As an alum of FAU and UM, I can tell you firsthand FAU's outreach (and I'm assuming FIU's) is downright sad in comparison. Hopiping that changes to some degree; I've given to FAU and really there's not a whole lot in return in comparison to UM. Granted I am in NY, but the difference is night and day.

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 9:21 PM #387061

I remember talking to someone in athletics and being told how much information was missing when it came to simply having contact information for alum.

I see a lot of alum complaining about outreach, but how many have reached out to someone like Kris Wall who has been running the Plam Beach alumni association (doing a great job BTW) and asked how they can help.

How many people here are either in management or own a company and when they need a position filled reach out to the FAU career center an let them know you want to hire Owls?

Imagine how much it would mean to a young alum if they were hired partly because they were an Owl?

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 9:39 PM #387064

Duly noted, and I didn't reach out to Kris specifically, but I know people in Advancement and Alumni Relations, actually worked there in between schools (granted not really recently, but folks are still there), and specifically made it a point in correspondence to the school that I'd be willing to facilitate learning opportunities for students interested in certain career paths – crickets. I do understand that FAU is a much larger institution with a huge alumni base, but they certainly can and should be doing more from what I've seen and experienced.

NJOWL said

faufan2017 said

JulesFIU07 said

NJOWL said

JulesFIU07 said

NJOWL said

JulesFIU07 said

NJOWL said

JulesFIU07 said

GeorgiaOwl said

On a rival teams board? Ya think??  

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 2:31 PM #387032

Haha, it isn’t even like I trashed PBC, all I really said is that Miami is doing really well; and I certainly didn’t trash FAU, but I guess it is hard for some people to hear that FIU is doing ok too?  

I don’t know, if it makes people feel better to think of FIU as an institution on the precipice of collapse; and Miami as some Syria-like war zone that people are fleeing from and avoiding, despite the better than 10% population growth rate and rising property values, so be it.

I just wanted to set the record straight.

Anyway, I don’t know what the AAC has planned.  I am sure ESPN can renegotiate their contract, which might force them to add a school, but how they go about doing that, I have no idea.

If all they care about is available eyes on screens, the only two big markets they don’t hit are Atlanta and Miami.  If they care about gaps in the map they are probably looking at ODU, UAB, or MTSU.  If they care about sustained success and a strong following then App State is probably your best bet.

Really it is a crap shoot.

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 5:16 PM #387037

No one said fiu is not doing well. Your statements regarding the surround area not mattering, however, are a bit ridiculous. We have gotten multiple recruits over you just because of the area surrounding fiu (according to those recruit's parents (Ocie Rose and an offensive lineman whose name escapes me to name just two).

As for your statements re: Miami doing better than Palm Beach County in terms of growth and/or welath, I direct you to this article: In Miami, There Are Too Many Condos and Not Enough Foreign Buyers - WSJ.

Also this one regarding Palm Beach: Palm Beach Notches Big-Ticket Home Sales - WSJ.

Regarding Boca specifically from two years ago: Shedding Seinfeld Stereotypes, Boca Property Developers Court Younger Crowd - WSJ

And perhaps the best one from CNBC regarding Boca as the next Miami: Behind Florida real estate

I think most at this point know that Miami is not what it used to be. And the fact that you mention Downtown Miami as a redeeming quality is mind boggling. I used to work in Downtown Miami and there could not have been more homeless people. No socialite or person of wealth would be there past 6 or 7 pm leaving work.

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 5:48 PM #387040

Oy…

…1Q - 2019 Palm Beach Sales Market Report | Douglas Elliman

http://www.miamidda.com/wp-content/uploads/MDDA_DemoPopReport_05072018.pdf

Hope actual reports provide greater insight for those that are actually interested in keeping up to date on the data.

But hey, you talked to a guy in an airport…

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 8:13 PM #387051

You didn’t read my post at all. The airport examples were anecdotal of the other articles referenced.

Your palm beach article has sales up 6%.

Your downtown Miami article includes the greater Miami article rather than just downtown Miami. 

The point remains: the vibrance and viability of Miami as a city is 30-40 minutes away from fiu and wants nothing to do with you. FAU has had multiple million dollar donations in the past year from people in the local community that just like FAU. 

Posted On: Jun 30th 2019, 10:48 PM #387066

Ugh, there are multiple reports on the first link, please click through them.

The second one shows massive population growth in that Downtown you detest, and shows a median household income of $120,000.

Donations, we have those too.  The Green School of International and Public Affairs, $15 million donation.  The Leon Family Ambulatory Care Center, $10 million donation.  The Frost Art Museum, I think that was a smaller one at five million.  The Chaplin School of Hospitality Management, $20 million, and they gave us the South Beach Wine and Food Festival, which raises about $2 million a year for us.  The Wertheim College of Medicine, $40 million.

You know the amazing thing, those are all rich people who have nothing to do with FIU other than living in Dade County.

So once again, whatever makes you feel better.

Posted On: Jul 1st 2019, 6:25 AM #387070

That report shows greater Miami and caps it downtown. Seems skewed. 

Nevertheless, what does a “downtown Miami” 30 minutes from fiu have to do with fiu? 

This is like Rutgers actually claiming NYC. 

Posted On: Jul 1st 2019, 9:14 AM #387076

I guess about as much as Palm Beach Gardens, Jupiter, and Palm Beach have to do with FAU?

Are you operating under the assumption that FIU students exclusively come from Sweetwater and alums exclusively live in Sweetwater?

Posted On: Jul 1st 2019, 9:24 AM #387077

Haha that's completely inaccurate. FAU has a major science campus up in Jupiter (Wilkes Honors College). They're building new dorms, research labs and classrooms. They're hiring a bunch of new researchers/professors and trying up to bring enrollment to 3000+ students.

Posted On: Jul 1st 2019, 10:19 AM #387080

I believe our Jupiter campus has one of the only campuses that has both a Scripps and Max Planck research institutes. FAU | MPHP. The Jupiter campus also had its best enrollment this year ever.

Students at FAU are increasingly coming from the northeast and all around Florida.

Can you speak to the same for fiu? Or is fiu still combatting the same apathetic student body? I still find it amazing that every year we play y'all down there the FAU fans outnumber the fiu fans by far. Your stadium had about 5000 actual bodies there and I had to wait 45 minutes to get into the stadium and both endzones were tarped off. A down year for us and an up year for you and we still far out numbered you.

Posted On: Jul 1st 2019, 10:24 AM #387081

It is my understanding that we both have attendance issues.

As far as where students come from,  http://www.fau.edu/iea/pdf/quickfacts/qf-2016.pdf.  FAU says that nearly 96% of the students are from Florida, with 85% of them coming from Broward and Palm Beach Counties.

Don’t have county data for us, but looking at this we appear to also be about 90% state of Florida residents, https://www.flbog.edu/board/_doc/accountabilityplan/ap_2018/FIU_2018_Accountability_Plan__FINAL2.pdf.  I would assume, similar to FAU, the overwhelming majority of our students come from two counties.