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Early Rumors Indicate FAU NOT a part of Conference Expansion

Jab979 said

quijoteFIU said

Good After owl fans… FIU fan here…

Had this conference materialized when you were at the top of the Sunbelt, and coming off bowl wins, then you might have received the nod instead of North Texas. I don't think it ultimately matters that FIU is on a huge momentum swing now, or that FIU just signed the best Sunbelt class ever with the highest star average and 19 three star talents thereby even beating many schools in stronger conferences. Fact of the matter is, ultimately its a numbers game, and FIU has FAU beat in that business oriented department. I invite you to compare every business related statistic, and FIU has FAU beat, its as simple as that.

Its the reason why North Texas, which is widely considered to be only slightly better than FAU right now, is being considered. Their relatively distance to Dallas makes it the most attractive market second to FIU. And do understand that FAU and FIU are NOT in the same media market. Miami Dade/Broward is the nation's #11 media market. West Palm is not even a top 50. If it was the same market, you'd be watching NBC on WTVJ, not WPTV as you do.

You have a nicer stadium, I'll give you that. But its been widely acknowledged that your stadium is ahead of the state of the program. While FIU's stadium is not as attractive, its FAR from the "glorified high school" many of you render it as being. Its nicer than most other Sunbelt stadiums, with the exception of North Texas & FAU. We've had three sellouts this year, and came off the best attendance ever. We've built our stadium per our capacity demands, not overbuilt like FAU's which will may have thousands of empty seats for several years to come.

This is not to say that FAU will be stuck in the Sunbelt forever. I think eventually this new conference will hand you an invtiation. But at its early stages, there are more attractive options right now as far as numbers and opportunity revenue is considered.

Good luck on your upcoming season.

HAHAH!!! sorry your post made me laugh

Have you ever attended a game in your football stadium? Ya know the one you didn't even build? lol. It is a glorified H.S. stadium. Had they picked up lockhart and put it on your campus, that is what it looks like.

You are delusional if you think you have the 3rd best stadium in the belt. FAU, UNT, WKU for starters. I've never been but I'm sure Movie Gallery Stadium (Troy) is nicer as well.

Yes you do have the Miami market, but you share that with UM. We do not share our market with anyone. Three sell outs?? If you guys had three sell outs, then we sold out every game this year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Sun_Belt_Conference_football_season

According to this list, by my count FIU didn't have 1 "sell out"

Don't count your chickens before they hatch either. It's been speculated FIU will be invited, but nothing is set in stone. Until that happens I wouldn't go around telling other teams they won't be in the Belt that long when you're in the same position they are.

As for your best recruiting class ever, our coach was on the job for 2 months and got 10 "3 star" players. How'd that 4 star Pooh Bear work out for you guys?

Appreciate you stopping bye and making me laugh with your ridiculous comments

+ 1.

We have our own market to dominate (not saying we do, but it is ours). We have a better stadium. And our coach was on the job for one month (recruiting time) and has a class that will rival yours. Oh, and it was his first recruiting class here.

Also, no one has been formally invited and the only speculation has been done by reporters who simply want views.

Btw, where do you get that you beat us in every business category? Just where did you get that?
I can say we beat Florida St. in every category of business but it holds no value. Give us some stats because I really do not see where you are coming from.

Our school has more visibility and a nicer stadium, along with our own market. Fiu has none of those. ROLL OWLS


                                         ROLL OWLS
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Ya'll had a good year but you has six home games with three being decent local and/or name and/or competitive draws (UCF, Duke and FAU). Yet you barely beat us (by only 248 in average home attenndance) even though we sucked this year AND had ZERO local or name draws. You have gone to bowls two consecutive years yet you still only draw 18K/game? What happens when mario does leave or you have a bad year, back to well below 15K I would venture. And don't even talk about your BB programs attendance! Rousing numbers for such a "huge" enrollment!
Now if you developed a great soccer team down there, then you would be talking attendance - MAYBE!
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quijoteFIU said

Good After owl fans… FIU fan here…

Had this conference materialized when you were at the top of the Sunbelt, and coming off bowl wins, then you might have received the nod instead of North Texas. I don't think it ultimately matters that FIU is on a huge momentum swing now, or that FIU just signed the best Sunbelt class ever with the highest star average and 19 three star talents thereby even beating many schools in stronger conferences. Fact of the matter is, ultimately its a numbers game, and FIU has FAU beat in that business oriented department. I invite you to compare every business related statistic, and FIU has FAU beat, its as simple as that.

Its the reason why North Texas, which is widely considered to be only slightly better than FAU right now, is being considered. Their relatively distance to Dallas makes it the most attractive market second to FIU. And do understand that FAU and FIU are NOT in the same media market. Miami Dade/Broward is the nation's #11 media market. West Palm is not even a top 50. If it was the same market, you'd be watching NBC on WTVJ, not WPTV as you do.

You have a nicer stadium, I'll give you that. But its been widely acknowledged that your stadium is ahead of the state of the program. While FIU's stadium is not as attractive, its FAR from the "glorified high school" many of you render it as being. Its nicer than most other Sunbelt stadiums, with the exception of North Texas & FAU. We've had three sellouts this year, and came off the best attendance ever. We've built our stadium per our capacity demands, not overbuilt like FAU's which will may have thousands of empty seats for several years to come.

This is not to say that FAU will be stuck in the Sunbelt forever. I think eventually this new conference will hand you an invtiation. But at its early stages, there are more attractive options right now as far as numbers and opportunity revenue is considered.

Good luck on your upcoming season.

"Good After" ? What is a good after? Please do not post on OUR fansite if you can't even speak proper Engish. Go back to Miami, Papi.
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quijoteFIU said

Good After owl fans… FIU fan here…

Had this conference materialized when you were at the top of the Sunbelt, and coming off bowl wins, then you might have received the nod instead of North Texas. I don't think it ultimately matters that FIU is on a huge momentum swing now, or that FIU just signed the best Sunbelt class ever with the highest star average and 19 three star talents thereby even beating many schools in stronger conferences. Fact of the matter is, ultimately its a numbers game, and FIU has FAU beat in that business oriented department. I invite you to compare every business related statistic, and FIU has FAU beat, its as simple as that.

Its the reason why North Texas, which is widely considered to be only slightly better than FAU right now, is being considered. Their relatively distance to Dallas makes it the most attractive market second to FIU. And do understand that FAU and FIU are NOT in the same media market. Miami Dade/Broward is the nation's #11 media market. West Palm is not even a top 50. If it was the same market, you'd be watching NBC on WTVJ, not WPTV as you do.

You have a nicer stadium, I'll give you that. But its been widely acknowledged that your stadium is ahead of the state of the program. While FIU's stadium is not as attractive, its FAR from the "glorified high school" many of you render it as being. Its nicer than most other Sunbelt stadiums, with the exception of North Texas & FAU. We've had three sellouts this year, and came off the best attendance ever. We've built our stadium per our capacity demands, not overbuilt like FAU's which will may have thousands of empty seats for several years to come.

This is not to say that FAU will be stuck in the Sunbelt forever. I think eventually this new conference will hand you an invtiation. But at its early stages, there are more attractive options right now as far as numbers and opportunity revenue is considered.

Good luck on your upcoming season.

This guy makes some valid points. Even though FIU will always play second fiddle to UM, most UM fans did in fact graduate from FIU. Most Miami sports fan rep Green and Orange, but you can't help but feel a sense of pride for your alma mater no matter who they are. I also agree with us overbuilding our stadium in a sense, but you have to give us that extra room to grow early on if we ever want to fulfill it. FIU has a greater centralized population than FAU does and I'm sure that is one thing the Conference will be looking at closely. And yes, even though Boca is the closest city to Broward county, it is still in Palm Beach and there's no denying that.

I hate FIU just as much as the next Owl fan, but you can't possibly believe that any Conference in the country doesn't see the current momentum swings by both schools. It's all FIU right now in South Florida Mid-Major sports and we can only change that by having a successful Football season next year.
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walty12 said

d-owl said

Jab979 said

 So what makes FIU more appealing than FAU? They are coming off their best season in school history and we're coming off of our worst. Simple as that

It's really true - and was why I was really afraid of the way the program was going the past few seasons. I'm sure the AD and staff will do what they can to make sure FAU is in the mix, but FIU is the hot team with more exposure and visibility. They have received much more 'exposure' with Isiah, the national basketball events they host, the good recruiting classes, having a guy like TY, and let's face it - a pretty competitive football program the past two seasons. I remember when they beat Louisville on the road there was a lot of national talk about them being a 'big east team trapped in the Sunbelt'.  And I'm sure being in the heart of Miami will help them.

Other than that the schools are essentially identical. Academically both are lower tier 'national' universities with certain strong points here and there. But right now we are likely being left somewhat behind in the discussions, and that is a direct result of us not capitalizing off the two bowl games.

Haha, its not true at all.  You think business men are like "you see the season Arkansas State just had in the Belt?  Man we have to get them.  Yeah, and thier 8 3 star recruits would just do wonders for our conference."

There was ONE true post on this board and that is…."what happens when Cristobal leaves?"  Hell, athletes shouldn't pick a program because of the coach let alone a confernce!

ANY SMART FOOTBALL FAN KNOWS THEY ARE RIGHT BACK TO THIER 0-23 WAYS WHEN HE IS GONE.  You think somebody in the boardroom says "what about that kid TY that wanted his momma to watch every game so he stayed home…shouldn't we put them in the conference for that?"   ::)  The reason we are AHEAD of FIU right now NO MATTER WHAT LASTS YEARS RECORD WAS is that we have the infrastucture that they dont ($70 million stadium).  If Cristobal leaves they are screwed, if Pelini leaves we can easily attract another quality coach…because we have the INFRASTRUCTURE to do so.

Business men realize its about INFRASTRUCTURE…not your 7-6 record that makes them want to bring you to a conference.  Infrastuctrue and potential dollars.  Haha, bring them in because of Isiah Thomas…LOL, thats just funny.

This is ENTIRELY Angelos's deal, it his sole responsibility to sell our school to whatever conference we want to get into.  Fly people that make those decisions to take a look at our campus and educate them on the possibilities of FAU.  How about pointing out that 24,000 freshman applied to FAU last year along with 8,000 transfer students…you want a stat that is more impressive than a 7-5 record and an embarassing bowl performance there you go.

You have really got to be kidding me. I was talking about "discussions" and who is being talked about nationally with respect to conference expansion. FAU is not in those discussions like FIU is. FAU is not in the national 'talk' because they have been embarrassing for the last 3 years. I am not talking about what the AD or administration is doing. Why don't you analyze what is written before constantly attacking people on this site - honestly your act is getting tired.
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Only in football! And that is changing, it has to, it can't be any worse that last year!
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d-owl said

walty12 said

d-owl said

Jab979 said

 So what makes FIU more appealing than FAU? They are coming off their best season in school history and we're coming off of our worst. Simple as that

It's really true - and was why I was really afraid of the way the program was going the past few seasons. I'm sure the AD and staff will do what they can to make sure FAU is in the mix, but FIU is the hot team with more exposure and visibility. They have received much more 'exposure' with Isiah, the national basketball events they host, the good recruiting classes, having a guy like TY, and let's face it - a pretty competitive football program the past two seasons. I remember when they beat Louisville on the road there was a lot of national talk about them being a 'big east team trapped in the Sunbelt'.  And I'm sure being in the heart of Miami will help them.

Other than that the schools are essentially identical. Academically both are lower tier 'national' universities with certain strong points here and there. But right now we are likely being left somewhat behind in the discussions, and that is a direct result of us not capitalizing off the two bowl games.

Haha, its not true at all.  You think business men are like "you see the season Arkansas State just had in the Belt?  Man we have to get them.  Yeah, and thier 8 3 star recruits would just do wonders for our conference."

There was ONE true post on this board and that is…."what happens when Cristobal leaves?"  Hell, athletes shouldn't pick a program because of the coach let alone a confernce!

ANY SMART FOOTBALL FAN KNOWS THEY ARE RIGHT BACK TO THIER 0-23 WAYS WHEN HE IS GONE.  You think somebody in the boardroom says "what about that kid TY that wanted his momma to watch every game so he stayed home…shouldn't we put them in the conference for that?"   ::)  The reason we are AHEAD of FIU right now NO MATTER WHAT LASTS YEARS RECORD WAS is that we have the infrastucture that they dont ($70 million stadium).  If Cristobal leaves they are screwed, if Pelini leaves we can easily attract another quality coach…because we have the INFRASTRUCTURE to do so.

Business men realize its about INFRASTRUCTURE…not your 7-6 record that makes them want to bring you to a conference.  Infrastuctrue and potential dollars.  Haha, bring them in because of Isiah Thomas…LOL, thats just funny.

This is ENTIRELY Angelos's deal, it his sole responsibility to sell our school to whatever conference we want to get into.  Fly people that make those decisions to take a look at our campus and educate them on the possibilities of FAU.  How about pointing out that 24,000 freshman applied to FAU last year along with 8,000 transfer students…you want a stat that is more impressive than a 7-5 record and an embarassing bowl performance there you go.

You have really got to be kidding me. I was talking about "discussions" and who is being talked about nationally with respect to conference expansion. FAU is not in those discussions like FIU is. FAU is not in the national 'talk' because they have been embarrassing for the last 3 years. I am not talking about what the AD or administration is doing. Why don't you analyze what is written before constantly attacking people on this site - honestly your act is getting tired.

My act of making sense?  You think recruiting has something to do with conference invite.  You dont realize ITS A BUSINESS DECISION BASED ON DOLLARS…not last years record.


When did I attack you?  Just because I make you sound like an idiot doens' t mean I attack you.

Teambeer is the most knowledgeable FAU sports fan I know, way smarter than me.
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walty12 said

d-owl said

walty12 said

d-owl said

Jab979 said

 So what makes FIU more appealing than FAU? They are coming off their best season in school history and we're coming off of our worst. Simple as that

It's really true - and was why I was really afraid of the way the program was going the past few seasons. I'm sure the AD and staff will do what they can to make sure FAU is in the mix, but FIU is the hot team with more exposure and visibility. They have received much more 'exposure' with Isiah, the national basketball events they host, the good recruiting classes, having a guy like TY, and let's face it - a pretty competitive football program the past two seasons. I remember when they beat Louisville on the road there was a lot of national talk about them being a 'big east team trapped in the Sunbelt'.  And I'm sure being in the heart of Miami will help them.

Other than that the schools are essentially identical. Academically both are lower tier 'national' universities with certain strong points here and there. But right now we are likely being left somewhat behind in the discussions, and that is a direct result of us not capitalizing off the two bowl games.

Haha, its not true at all.  You think business men are like "you see the season Arkansas State just had in the Belt?  Man we have to get them.  Yeah, and thier 8 3 star recruits would just do wonders for our conference."

There was ONE true post on this board and that is…."what happens when Cristobal leaves?"  Hell, athletes shouldn't pick a program because of the coach let alone a confernce!

ANY SMART FOOTBALL FAN KNOWS THEY ARE RIGHT BACK TO THIER 0-23 WAYS WHEN HE IS GONE.  You think somebody in the boardroom says "what about that kid TY that wanted his momma to watch every game so he stayed home…shouldn't we put them in the conference for that?"   ::)  The reason we are AHEAD of FIU right now NO MATTER WHAT LASTS YEARS RECORD WAS is that we have the infrastucture that they dont ($70 million stadium).  If Cristobal leaves they are screwed, if Pelini leaves we can easily attract another quality coach…because we have the INFRASTRUCTURE to do so.

Business men realize its about INFRASTRUCTURE…not your 7-6 record that makes them want to bring you to a conference.  Infrastuctrue and potential dollars.  Haha, bring them in because of Isiah Thomas…LOL, thats just funny.

This is ENTIRELY Angelos's deal, it his sole responsibility to sell our school to whatever conference we want to get into.  Fly people that make those decisions to take a look at our campus and educate them on the possibilities of FAU.  How about pointing out that 24,000 freshman applied to FAU last year along with 8,000 transfer students…you want a stat that is more impressive than a 7-5 record and an embarassing bowl performance there you go.

You have really got to be kidding me. I was talking about "discussions" and who is being talked about nationally with respect to conference expansion. FAU is not in those discussions like FIU is. FAU is not in the national 'talk' because they have been embarrassing for the last 3 years. I am not talking about what the AD or administration is doing. Why don't you analyze what is written before constantly attacking people on this site - honestly your act is getting tired.

My act of making sense?  You think recruiting has something to do with conference invite.  You dont realize ITS A BUSINESS DECISION BASED ON DOLLARS…not last years record.


When did I attack you?  Just because I make you sound like an idiot doens' t mean I attack you.

Read your post carefully - I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU AT ALL WITH RESPECT YOUR POINTS! I agree the infrastructure is there just as much, if not more than it is at FIU. I was simply responding to another post regarding the national discussions on expansion, and FAU is not really being mentioned like FIU is for a myriad of reasons. Yet I have to read a diatribe from you trying to argue with me yet again going off on a tangent.  
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Its a forum, I dont agree with your points…thats why this board exists.

Dont read what I write if you dont want to…its not only for you to read. 

Teambeer is the most knowledgeable FAU sports fan I know, way smarter than me.
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GeorgiaOwl said

Only in football! And that is changing, it has to, it can't be any worse that last year!

Right, does anybody want to bring up the fact that we won the conference in basketball last year?

Suprised we didn't get an invite to the SEC after that 20 win season.

Teambeer is the most knowledgeable FAU sports fan I know, way smarter than me.
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