I dont think "loyalty" is the correct term here.

Upward mobility is important to these coaches.  They want to coach at the best schools that have the most resources and gives them the best chance to be sucessful.  Its not just about money, but money and winning.

Making my point would be to say that Michigan has had 5 head football coaches since 1965.  UF has had 4 head football coaches since 1990 (or whenever Spurrier came).  Ohio State has 3 head coaches since 1988.  Florida State has 2 head coaches since 1976.  That is very low turnover.

To say there is no loyalty is false.  There is TONS of loyalty from college football coaches….once you reach the top quarter of the programs.  Which is how it should be, everybody wants to be the best at what they do.  If FAU wants a loyal coach…build the rest of Innovation Village and keep improving the University and its programs.   

walty12 said

I dont think "loyalty" is the correct term here.

Upward mobility is important to these coaches.  They want to coach at the best schools that have the most resources and gives them the best chance to be sucessful.  Its not just about money, but money and winning.

Making my point would be to say that Michigan has had 5 head football coaches since 1965.  UF has had 4 head football coaches since 1990 (or whenever Spurrier came).  Ohio State has 3 head coaches since 1988.  Florida State has 2 head coaches since 1976.  That is very low turnover.

To say there is no loyalty is false.  There is TONS of loyalty from college football coaches….once you reach the top quarter of the programs.  Which is how it should be, everybody wants to be the best at what they do.  If FAU wants a loyal coach…build the rest of Innovation Village and keep improving the University and its programs.

Yes, there is tons of loyalty from college football coaches ….until another university will write a larger check; or the NFL comes calling  ;D

You FINALLY got one right Beast Owl!  Money, incentives and perks. . . . THAT's what the football coaches are about now.  There is no such thing as loyalty in college football today. They don't care about the fans (or what they have to say).

You FINALLY got one right Beast Owl!  

What are you talking about?  I'm always right.

I know you guys are right on this, there is LITTLE loyalty to a school, program, players or fans in college athletics today.
And this is the beginning of the problems in collegiate athetics too.
They all get paid REAL well (especially the Head Coaches and Coordinators) compared to "regular real" jobs that the rest of us have to deal with but the cash never seems to be enough for them.
How can we expect the young men and women athletes to develop character traits such as loyalty when the AD's and Coaches exhibit little. The kid's learn from example and they don't get a very good one anymore do they? And this will carry on into their businesses and personal and family relationships as well. SAD!

Just an example:

"Brady Hoke loves hard. He loves his family, his players, his assistant coaches, Ball State football and Michigan football. You think winning 12 games and getting into the BCS conversation is difficult at Stanford? Try doing it at Ball State. … Jim Harbaugh's 12–1 can't touch Brady Hoke's 12–1. … Michigan is his destination job. He has no interest in auctioning himself off to the highest bidder. He loves Ann Arbor. He'd crawl on hot, broken glass to work inside Schembechler Hall as the head coach. … He has an uncanny ability to get kids to believe in him and believe in themselves. He doesn't do it with smooth words. He's not smooth. He does it by being the same genuine person day after day. … He connects. The kids hang on his words, respond to his tough love and accept his discipline."[17]


You cant blame a coach for going to the NFL to see if he is the best of the best.  That is part of being a competitor, and these guys are fierce competitiors…its why they make the money they do.  These coaches have immense responsibilities and pressure.  They make the money because doing a good HC job at a large University is worth that kind of money, not because they are greedy people.

 He'd crawl on hot, broken glass to work inside Schembechler Hall as the head coach.

Luckily this isn't a prerequisite for the FAU job.  

hoot4fau said

BocaCoop said

And… Its still hard for me to believe that a guy who had the #2 team in the nation in the Big 12 conference wants to come to the worst team in Div 1 football, let alone the Sunbelt conference. I think that the FAU HC job is more suited for someone that hasnt been an HC or is a HC at a lower level. Does anyone know who the 1 coach was who didnt recieve the pink slip this week?

You could always call Coach Leach and ask him.  He hosts a call-in show every afternoon with Jack Arute on XM channel 91.

Never mind, I guess he won't be hosting his show anymore.  Leach to Washington State.

Garrick McGee????

Garrick McGee - ArkansasRazorbacks.com - Official Site of Arkansas Razorback Athletics

GeorgiaOwl said

I know you guys are right on this, there is LITTLE loyalty to a school, program, players or fans in college athletics today.
And this is the beginning of the problems in collegiate athetics too.
They all get paid REAL well (especially the Head Coaches and Coordinators) compared to "regular real" jobs that the rest of us have to deal with but the cash never seems to be enough for them.
How can we expect the young men and women athletes to develop character traits such as loyalty when the AD's and Coaches exhibit little. The kid's learn from example and they don't get a very good one anymore do they? And this will carry on into their businesses and personal and family relationships as well. SAD!

"Regular real" jobs are 40 hour work weeks. I think you have forgotten…or maybe you need a bit of education, but coaches do not work "regular real" jobs. Before you call out a coach for their lack of loyalty, put yourself in their shoes. Coaches work FAR more than 40 hours a week. It's more like 80+ hours - 7 days a week. They often have to put their job ahead of themselves and their families. How would you feel if you had the salary of our current assistant coaches and worked 80+ hours a week? Think about that for a second!