FAU to convert to A-11 Offense?
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Re: FAU to convert to A-11 Offense?
FAU to convert to A-11 Offense?
TeamBeer said
It's a high school gimmick offense where intimidation works much better than execution at times.
Maybe so…BUT:
You line up Harmon and Grant along side whoever our center is this year and then put Rose next to Rusty in the backfield.
Place any of our wide receivers out on the wings and see what happens…im telling you this would be a great shocker play against some team when we need to spice it up…
Remember what happened to Minn when they came to Florida…we went no huddle and threw in some spread formations…toasted them in the first-half…and IMO that was what won the game for us…not that this is the same thing, but to illustrate the need for "variety" at times…
Now, if it truly isn't legal, which i haven't read anywhere but do believe you, then wonder why?? It does not violate any existing rules??
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Wise Owl
Member since 2004
Re: FAU to convert to A-11 Offense?
"One of the proposals the committee discussed, which would curtail the A-11, was to take away an exception to rule 7-2-5b that allows players with jersey numbers 1-49 and 80-99 to be down linemen, and eligible pass receivers, in a scrimmage kick formation.
The A-11 (A11Offense.com) creators used that exception to have all of their players wear numbers 1-49 or 80-99, numbers reserved for receivers, and said if the numbering is allowed for scrimmage kicks it should be allowed for all offensive plays. Referees working A-11 games, Bryan said, have not thrown flags for ineligible receivers and allowed the offense to proceed throughout the game."
The numbering issue is allowed in kick formations because you have guys playing special teams who are not traditional lineman.
Florida-Owl, this goes back to the earlier point that I made about the strange kick formation that mirrors this A-11 scheme.
To clarify, by rule lineman can only have the numbers of eligible receivers when they are lineman in a kick formation. Basically this formation violates that rule, but officials have not called it.
Garbage formation in my opinion.
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Re: FAU to convert to A-11 Offense?
owlfan1 said
Here is the hitch in all of this:
"One of the proposals the committee discussed, which would curtail the A-11, was to take away an exception to rule 7-2-5b that allows players with jersey numbers 1-49 and 80-99 to be down linemen, and eligible pass receivers, in a scrimmage kick formation.
The A-11 (A11Offense.com) creators used that exception to have all of their players wear numbers 1-49 or 80-99, numbers reserved for receivers, and said if the numbering is allowed for scrimmage kicks it should be allowed for all offensive plays. Referees working A-11 games, Bryan said, have not thrown flags for ineligible receivers and allowed the offense to proceed throughout the game."
The numbering issue is allowed in kick formations because you have guys playing special teams who are not traditional lineman.
Florida-Owl, this goes back to the earlier point that I made about the strange kick formation that mirrors this A-11 scheme.
To clarify, by rule lineman can only have the numbers of eligible receivers when they are lineman in a kick formation. Basically this formation violates that rule, but officials have not called it.
Garbage formation in my opinion.
Good point…….
Think we need a poll! ;D
Adding one…
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Wise Owl
Member since 2004
Re: FAU to convert to A-11 Offense?
Florida_Owl said
owlfan1 said
Here is the hitch in all of this:
"One of the proposals the committee discussed, which would curtail the A-11, was to take away an exception to rule 7-2-5b that allows players with jersey numbers 1-49 and 80-99 to be down linemen, and eligible pass receivers, in a scrimmage kick formation.
The A-11 (A11Offense.com) creators used that exception to have all of their players wear numbers 1-49 or 80-99, numbers reserved for receivers, and said if the numbering is allowed for scrimmage kicks it should be allowed for all offensive plays. Referees working A-11 games, Bryan said, have not thrown flags for ineligible receivers and allowed the offense to proceed throughout the game."
The numbering issue is allowed in kick formations because you have guys playing special teams who are not traditional lineman.
Florida-Owl, this goes back to the earlier point that I made about the strange kick formation that mirrors this A-11 scheme.
To clarify, by rule lineman can only have the numbers of eligible receivers when they are lineman in a kick formation. Basically this formation violates that rule, but officials have not called it.
Garbage formation in my opinion.
Good point…….
Think we need a poll! ;D
Adding one…
Poll it up.
GO OWLS!!!
2017 and 2019 Conference USA Champions
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Is the A-11 Formation a legitimate formation according to current rules?
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Wise Owl
Member since 2004
Re: FAU to convert to A-11 Offense?
I would argue that anyone who votes yes does not see or does not comprehend the rule that lineman can only wear numbers 1-49 and 80-99 when in kick formation.
GO OWLS!!!
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owlfan1 said
I voted no with the addition that spread schmed…smashmouth rules (I grew up with BIGTEN football and the Chicago Bears).
I would argue that anyone who votes yes does not see or does not comprehend the rule that lineman can only wear numbers 1-49 and 80-99 when in kick formation.
GO OWLS!!!
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First Flight
Member since 2004
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Florida_Owl said
owlfan1 said
If I am not mistaken the linemen in the formation cannot go downfield. So three guys will not be receivers.
The article state they can…check it out…
It's a very interesting scheme to say the least…and the hillarious part is that it is already being met by objection…
HS would never go for something like this IMO…unless it was a trick play…
Hoever, if they allow it to stand, you can bet your bottom dollar this will show up in Urban Myers playbook…
"If a player gets set on the line, and another player lines up outside that player, the inside player is ineligible to catch a pass. What the A-11 can do is have offensive players wait until the final seconds of the play clock and then take positions on the line making it difficult for the defense to know, until the last moment, which receivers are eligible."
I think this explains that all players are not eligible on each play. Nonetheless, this isn't traditional football, but neither is the spread offense. So what's the difference really? The spead is a gimmick. The option is a gimmick. The wildcat is a gimmick. The A-11 seems more like something for arena football. These teams are unable to line-up and knock the snot out of the kid across from them.
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Wise Owl
Member since 2007
Re: FAU to convert to A-11 Offense?
Florida_Owl said
rdownin1 said
Formation is garbage
No, please tell us how you really feel!
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Bytor
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