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I recall the FAU used to have a really good swim team. I heard that it imploded.

It would be crazy to consider firing Howard, but there has to be a meeting and a plan to hired a head-coach-to-be and let Howard ease out on his terms.

Also, Howard is the best paid (by far, the last time I checked) coach in the conference. My guess is, the assistants are paid squat. How about coming up with more assistant coach money (not likely) or having Howard take a pay cut, with that money going to hire experienced and potential head coach quality assistants?
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BMarkey said

Also, Howard is the best paid (by far, the last time I checked) coach in the conference.

Nope, that honor goes to Cristobal according to these 2009 figures:

99. Mario Cristobal, FIU Sun Belt $390,000
T100. Howard Schnellenberger, FAU Sun Belt $375,000
T103. Larry Blakeney, Troy Sun Belt $300,000
T103. Rick Stockstill, Middle Tennessee Sun Belt $300,000
T107. Todd Dodge North Texas Sun Belt $275,000
115. Charlie Weatherbie, La.-Monroe Sun Belt $205,000
T116. Rickey Bustle, La.-Lafayette Sun Belt $200,000
T116. Steve Roberts, Arkansas State Sun Belt $200,000
T116. David Elson, Western Kentucky Sun Belt $200,000


I thought Blakeney was the highest paid. Guess I was wrong.
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owlcountry said

BMarkey said

Also, Howard is the best paid (by far, the last time I checked) coach in the conference.

Nope, that honor goes to Cristobal according to these 2009 figures:

99. Mario Cristobal, FIU Sun Belt $390,000
T100. Howard Schnellenberger, FAU Sun Belt $375,000
T103. Larry Blakeney, Troy Sun Belt $300,000
T103. Rick Stockstill, Middle Tennessee Sun Belt $300,000
T107. Todd Dodge North Texas Sun Belt $275,000
115. Charlie Weatherbie, La.-Monroe Sun Belt $205,000
T116. Rickey Bustle, La.-Lafayette Sun Belt $200,000
T116. Steve Roberts, Arkansas State Sun Belt $200,000
T116. David Elson, Western Kentucky Sun Belt $200,000


I thought Blakeney was the highest paid. Guess I was wrong.
LOL and u guys want to replace Howard? so we can get a Todd Dodge or Charlie Weatherbie…better yet someone who will leave at their first chance
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Howard was the highest paid. I guess FIU wanted Cristobal pretty badly.

Blakeney got a nice raise a couple of years ago. Before than, we was way back in the pack. Troy has the same problem with low-paid assistants. Every time Troy develops a nice OC or DC, he's gone for bigger paychecks.
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owlmart said

owlcountry said

BMarkey said

Also, Howard is the best paid (by far, the last time I checked) coach in the conference.

Nope, that honor goes to Cristobal according to these 2009 figures:

99. Mario Cristobal, FIU Sun Belt $390,000
T100. Howard Schnellenberger, FAU Sun Belt $375,000
T103. Larry Blakeney, Troy Sun Belt $300,000
T103. Rick Stockstill, Middle Tennessee Sun Belt $300,000
T107. Todd Dodge North Texas Sun Belt $275,000
115. Charlie Weatherbie, La.-Monroe Sun Belt $205,000
T116. Rickey Bustle, La.-Lafayette Sun Belt $200,000
T116. Steve Roberts, Arkansas State Sun Belt $200,000
T116. David Elson, Western Kentucky Sun Belt $200,000


I thought Blakeney was the highest paid. Guess I was wrong.
LOL and u guys want to replace Howard? so we can get a Todd Dodge or Charlie Weatherbie…better yet someone who will leave at their first chance

Unless you find a coach who is nearing retirement or was coaxed out of retirement like Howard it's going to happen no matter who you hire. Howard can't be here forever. When the time comes for him to officially retire and we get a new coach, the 1st sign of success I'm sure he's gone. Until we get into a better conference it will happen in football and it will happen in basketball.

It has nothing to do with Howard. Terry Bowden, Jim Leavitt doesn't matter the first sign of success they are gone but you know what they can recruit. Even if they are here for 2 years they will have made an impact based on their recruiting

My two favorite teams are FAU, and who ever is beating FIU!
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I believe Howard should get thru next year no matter what.  He has earned being able to coach the team in its 1st year in the stadium.

That being said, IMO the BIGGEST decision this program will ever make is who it decides to hire as the next head coach.  The last thing FAU wants is to end up with a carousel of coaches.  Doing that can bury even the best of programs.

I dont know who I would hire for sure, but I definetly wouldn't hire the equivolent of a Matt Doherty.  I would want somebody that wants to build the program to the next level which will take 10-15 years.  We need a coach that gives our team confirmed identity by sticking with the pro-style offense.  That way recruits know what they are going to get by coming to FAU.  Defense, needs an identity.

Just because I've seen it on this board over and over…recruiting isn't as vital as everybody thinks.  Texas and UF both have had top 3 classes the last 4 years and NEITHER team is ranked.  TCU and Boise State…pretty sure they dont recruit in the top 10 and they are ranked in the top 5.  This game is mostly coaching, you dont need to have great recruiting classes to win the Sun Belt.

Teambeer is the most knowledgeable FAU sports fan I know, way smarter than me.
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I really don't belive any of you would want or say Howard should stay another year WE ARE THE WORST TEAM IN THE COUNTRY WITH THE OWRST RECURITING CLASS YEAR IN AND OUT another year would only hold our program back another two years.

Also what makes me the most angery about Howard is he dose very little coaching i go to alot of practies and he for the most part stands and there and wtaches. Have you every seen an Alabama practice on tv Saban is right there teaching and coaching the DBS and LBS Urban Meyer at UF coachs Sp. teams dont you we wish had a head coach that helped with Sp.teams we are paying Howard to be a face and name but the truth is he's not hate to say this but the stadium was all Brogan and Angelos.
So any defender of Howard on this borad tell me what he brings to the football program tell me what we are paying him 375k for.
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Howard Schnellenberger > Don Strock
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owlcountry40 said

I really don't belive any of you would want or say Howard should stay another year WE ARE THE WORST TEAM IN THE COUNTRY WITH THE OWRST RECURITING CLASS YEAR IN AND OUT another year would only hold our program back another two years.

Also what makes me the most angery about Howard is he dose very little coaching i go to alot of practies and he for the most part stands and there and wtaches. Have you every seen an Alabama practice on tv Saban is right there teaching and coaching the DBS and LBS Urban Meyer at UF coachs Sp. teams dont you we wish had a head coach that helped with Sp.teams we are paying Howard to be a face and name but the truth is he's not hate to say this but the stadium was all Brogan and Angelos.
So any defender of Howard on this borad tell me what he brings to the football program tell me what we are paying him 375k for.

You are perhaps the most shortsighted FAU fan that I have ever encountered.

The difference between Howard and Saban and Meyer is about 30 years. I don't expect him to be running around with a whistle.

What Howard has done:

1) Raised the intial money to get this program started.

2) Created a program from nothing.

3) Taken FAU to the FCS playoffs in record time.

4) Got FAU into the Sunbelt.

5) Won two bowl games with FAU and made this team the fastest startup program in the history of college football.

6) Run a clean program (not something you can say for Meyer or Saban).

Howard has been the architect. Just because he isn't the one pounding the nails on the practice field does not mean that he has not been invaluable to this program.

GO OWLS!!!

2017 and 2019 Conference USA Champions
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owlfan1 said

owlcountry40 said

I really don't belive any of you would want or say Howard should stay another year WE ARE THE WORST TEAM IN THE COUNTRY WITH THE OWRST RECURITING CLASS YEAR IN AND OUT another year would only hold our program back another two years.

Also what makes me the most angery about Howard is he dose very little coaching i go to alot of practies and he for the most part stands and there and wtaches. Have you every seen an Alabama practice on tv Saban is right there teaching and coaching the DBS and LBS Urban Meyer at UF coachs Sp. teams dont you we wish had a head coach that helped with Sp.teams we are paying Howard to be a face and name but the truth is he's not hate to say this but the stadium was all Brogan and Angelos.
So any defender of Howard on this borad tell me what he brings to the football program tell me what we are paying him 375k for.

You are perhaps the most shortsighted FAU fan that I have ever encountered.

The difference between Howard and Saban and Meyer is about 30 years. I don't expect him to be running around with a whistle.

What Howard has done:

1) Raised the intial money to get this program started.

2) Created a program from nothing.

3) Taken FAU to the FCS playoffs in record time.

4) Got FAU into the Sunbelt.

5) Won two bowl games with FAU and made this team the fastest startup program in the history of college football.

6) Run a clean program (not something you can say for Meyer or Saban).

Howard has been the architect. Just because he isn't the one pounding the nails on the practice field does not mean that he has not been invaluable to this program.

GO OWLS!!!
Sorry to burst your bubble but college football is about what have you done for me lately and where you will be taken me in the future and non of that looks promising with Howard at the Helm.
As an owl fan i will always love Howard for what he has done but when it's time IT'S TIME you can just keep him around out of respect as other programs pass us. O and if FAU is paying and coach 375k he dam well better be running around with a whistle.
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