Howard Argument Thread
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owlcountry40 said
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Strange to see with 21 days till kick off, we are counting down the wins and we are in 2009. Goes to show us how this program has struggled in recent years.Some schools get 21 wins in two seasons.Posted On: Aug 13th 2016, 10:36 AM #357652
I mean we had a head coach who wouldn't even make home visits the last few years and him stick around.
7 years later and well….Posted On: Aug 13th 2016, 11:55 AM #357653
Pelini had NOTHING to do with current situation. 8 seniors from his recruiting class has nothing to do with the current state. #fire shane
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owlcountry40 said
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Strange to see with 21 days till kick off, we are counting down the wins and we are in 2009. Goes to show us how this program has struggled in recent years.Some schools get 21 wins in two seasons.Posted On: Aug 13th 2016, 10:36 AM #357652
I mean we had a head coach who wouldn't even make home visits the last few years and him stick around.
7 years later and well….Posted On: Aug 13th 2016, 11:55 AM #357653
Pelini had NOTHING to do with current situation. 8 seniors from his recruiting class has nothing to do with the current state. #fire shanePosted On: Aug 14th 2016, 10:46 AM #357672
When did I say he didn't?
Again you create stories in your head.
I'm sorry you a coach apologist and never want them to own up to anything! Nobody can deny that Howard sunk this program for the last 2-3 years of his tenure.
And I will keep bringing it back up until we start winning or you guys don't wine and pretend like Howard didn't do anything wrong, he's not a god!
I mean this is the guy that thought a high end steak restaurant would work off 20th….
You must be the type of person that just makes excusws all day.
You're also a complete p***y for useing my name and calling me out for "behavior" when you hide behind a guest name.
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Imagine going to FAU when football was not even a thought. Basketball was division II. Athletics is a huge part of the foundation of the pride you get from your alma mater. Some of us graduated from FAU without ever experiencing that feeling of pride from a team.
I was certainly proud of being a FAU grad but never experienced that thrill of victory while at FAU.
Never in my wildest dreams did I ever think we would have a football team or an on campus stadium. Never once thought about being in a Bowl game or playing football against the likes of the Florida Gators or the Miami Hurricanes. Never ever.
...and then one day years after I graduated from FAU, Howard Schnellenberger (with President Cantonese) was on the campus at my alma mater talking about the feasibility of having a football team. They decided they would think about a move forward if they could raise $5M in seed money to get the ball rolling. Most of the money (if not all of it) came in due to the presence of Howard Schnellenberger being the face of FAU football. There was no Oxley building. There were no practice fields yet. That area was just a big field of grass.
The entire football program was sitting in that field in a trailer. And for a couple of years you went into that trailer and donated money and you committed to season tickets and you talked to Howard Schnellenberger and you started to develop your wildest of dreams like having a football team and having an on campus stadium. You dreamed about crazy things like playing in a bowl game and playing the likes of the Florida Gators and the Miami Hurricanes.
You started to have that huge pride in your alma mater in a way that was never there before. And you knew that through that whole process, it was happening because of Howard Schellenberger and that his dream was now your dream.
Embrace the Legend! Owls Up.
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Here is why I hold Howard in such high regard:
Imagine going to FAU when football was not even a thought. Basketball was division II. Athletics is a huge part of the foundation of the pride you get from your alma mater. Some of us graduated from FAU without ever experiencing that feeling of pride from a team.
I was certainly proud of being a FAU grad but never experienced that thrill of victory while at FAU.
Never in my wildest dreams did I ever think we would have a football team or an on campus stadium. Never once thought about being in a Bowl game or playing football against the likes of the Florida Gators or the Miami Hurricanes. Never ever.
...and then one day years after I graduated from FAU, Howard Schnellenberger (with President Cantonese) was on the campus at my alma mater talking about the feasibility of having a football team. They decided they would think about a move forward if they could raise $5M in seed money to get the ball rolling. Most of the money (if not all of it) came in due to the presence of Howard Schnellenberger being the face of FAU football. There was no Oxley building. There were no practice fields yet. That area was just a big field of grass.
The entire football program was sitting in that field in a trailer. And for a couple of years you went into that trailer and donated money and you committed to season tickets and you talked to Howard Schnellenberger and you started to develop your wildest of dreams like having a football team and having an on campus stadium. You dreamed about crazy things like playing in a bowl game and playing the likes of the Florida Gators and the Miami Hurricanes.
You started to have that huge pride in your alma mater in a way that was never there before. And you knew that through that whole process, it was happening because of Howard Schellenberger and that his dream was now your dream.
Embrace the Legend! Owls Up.Posted On: Aug 14th 2016, 2:57 PM #357676
Maybe since you have that connection you appreciate it more, but that fact is just as quickly as he built the program he set it back drastically.
Why wasn't a proper transition set up his final three years?
You could have hired someone and Howard could have practically been a figurehead head coach while the other person ran the team and everyone could have won.
Because of those years of losing we almost didn't even get invited to C-USA remember FIU was picked before us because at the time they were winning bowl games.
We only got in months later because C-USA lost more teams.
Just imagine where this fan base and program could be right now if we had 4-5 bowls game apperences mixed in while we were at the new stadium.
Once Howard wasn't even going in home with players he should have step down.
At that point you are just stealing money from the university and not giving the kids who are on the team the best you can give.
Howard my have built the car but it doesn't mean you can't crash it either.
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dusky256fc said
He is a moron.Posted On: Aug 14th 2016, 4:52 PM #357682
It's hard to be a moron when I'm 100 percent right…
I know how much it bothers you a 20 something schools you guys and tells you like it is,but hey I'm more of a kick out of everything when you can provide no facts and just resort to name calling.
Go Owls BTW.
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owlcountry40 said
dusky256fc said
He is a moron.Posted On: Aug 14th 2016, 4:52 PM #357682
It's hard to be a moron when I'm 100 percent right…
I know how much it bothers you a 20 something schools you guys and tells you like it is,but hey I'm more of a kick out of everything when you can provide no facts and just resort to name calling.
Go Owls BTW.Posted On: Aug 14th 2016, 5:02 PM #357683
I think I called you Shane. We have given facts that you choose to ignore because they undermine your thesis.
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