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Willie Taggart in the ACC, Past FSU Performance, and as a Coach

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cbboarder said

Local Owl said


Posted On: Jan 9th 2020, 4:45 PM #393252


Agreed, because they were so successful at FSU…….
Posted On: Jan 9th 2020, 4:50 PM #393253

Brah….you know we're talking about 2 different conferences here right?…just saying…

"What counts is not necessarily the size of the dog in the fight - it's the size of the fight in the dog."
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
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Coach T did not "fix" in 1 1/2 years what JIMBO BROKE AND BAILED ON. By the way, the LOSSES at A&M are rising, not shrinking!

I am Coach T's second biggest doubter apparently but I hope he succeeds at FAU, I believe this IS more his level! He IS a great recruiter and has hired a good staff. I feel if he succeeds like Lane he will be gone in 3 years and then Leavitt will gets his second shot as HC!
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I would venture to say you, GeorgiaOwl, are his third biggest doubter.  I've been doing my best to stay out of the fray.  I do hope he somehow succeeds.  
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Silver_Bullet32 said

cbboarder said

Local Owl said


Posted On: Jan 9th 2020, 4:45 PM #393252


Agreed, because they were so successful at FSU…….
Posted On: Jan 9th 2020, 4:50 PM #393253
Brah….you know we're talking about 2 different conferences here right?…just saying…
Posted On: Jan 17th 2020, 11:37 AM #393475
I've mentioned this previously but I am a GT season ticket holder. Lived in ATL for the last 19 yrs as a sales engineer and the majority of my friends/customers are tech grads. So I know a little about the ACC. Furthermore, the only team I hate more than FIU is UGA.

In any event, if FAU played in the ACC (this past year) we would have finished 11-3. The ACC was a very bad conference except for Clumpson. Again this year…. Willie T had a losing record in bad ACC…with 4 and 5 star recruits. And stop with the Jimbo dumpster fire excuses…..It's not Jimbo's fault, Willie was the HC.

If I may ask, why do we want a coach who's only "good" in a G5 conference?
Hells, jgf2017 is already making excuses for Willie T, calling next season a rebuilding year. Seriously?

Many on here state the fact that Willie T is a great recruiter but no one says he's a great coach……

I would rather have a great coach and a good recruiter. Unfortunately, LK is gone and not coming back.

Go Owls!

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I am not saying the ACC is a bunch of world-beaters (far from it). †But I would think Louisville (8 wins), UVA (9 wins including playing really well against UF in their bowl), Virginia Tech (8 wins), and even Pitt (8 wins - including beating UCF right after they spanked us) and Wake Forest (8 wins) are better than pretty much the rest of C-USA. †Maybe FAU would beat all of those guys, but throw in Clemson and that is at least 6 teams that would have probably been opposite FAU in the conference championship game.

So yes - the ACC was down compared to the last few years, and in relation to the other P5 conferences. †But I still think when you start going team-by-team they are better than most G5 leagues. †Just because FSU and Miami have sucked there are still some decent teams there. †I'd venture to say this season only FAU and LaTech at full-strength would have a shot at an 8 or 9-win season in the weakest of the P5 leagues.

But back to the topic - I think Willie has put together a very good staff, that seems similar to what you might see at a P5 school. †That and the talent coming back have me optimistic because we don't play in a very tough league.
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What are you talking about? I never said 2020 is a rebuilding year. I think it could be the year we make the top 25. The ultimate fail is when people actually think that FSU can compete for NC's. That ship has sailed and you're all in denial. Do you have any idea how far FSU has fallen compared to Bama, LSU, Clemson, OSU. Look at 2017 FSU scores. They got blasted at BC (what a juggernaut right) 35-3 putting them at 2-5 or something. They had to reschedule a FCS game to get bowl eligible. And 2015 and 2016 being ranked makes no difference. 2015 and 2016 FSU would've gotten hammered at season's end by the big powers. There's no end to the delusion. When it's been years since you've put up any sort of competitive fight against a great time, that's a REALLY BAD SIGN. It means it's over. The denial is absolutely crazy. There's people that actually think FSU can be a national power again and win the NC.
I mean c'mon, how was losing at BC 35-3 in 2017 Taggart's fault? You think a program can lose at BC 35-3 and then very shortly after will be competing for a playoff spot? Are you kidding? It's the same thing with UF's delusional fans. 2019 was their peak. You think UF's going to compete for NC's too? You disregard that 2014 was FSU's last playoff appearance and they got SLAUGHTERED by Oregon 59-14. Hello? You think FSU just needs the right coach? Absurd. Even in 2014 they had no chance of winning the NC. It's now 6 years later. UF hasn't even been in the playoffs and their last NC was 2008. They haven't come close since. So it's Taggart's fault FSU didn't compete for a playoff spot, or is FSU in the gutter?
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FSU will be in the hunt for the National Championship again at some point but it will take time.  Anyone who doesnít believe that has no idea what the6 are talking about.

GO OWLS!
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How does 6 years of having absolutely no shot at a NC mean I donít know what Iím talking about? Letís not forget youíre a die hard FSU fan. So bringing up 6 years of having no shot and the program declining means Iím wrong? You sound every bit in denial as a certain school to the southís fans were 15 years ago†
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jgf2017 said

How does 6 years of having absolutely no shot at a NC mean I donít know what Iím talking about? Letís not forget youíre a die hard FSU fan. So bringing up 6 years of having no shot and the program declining means Iím wrong? You sound every bit in denial as a certain school to the southís fans were 15 years ago†
Posted On: Jan 17th 2020, 5:27 PM #393488

Man are you ridiculous.  College football is cycles. 6 years is nothing.  You donít know what you are talking about and time will prove me right.

That said I am not going to argue with you about the future of FSU on an FAU message board.  Iím moving on.

GO OWLS!
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Whatís going on with FSU is exactly whatís gone on with other former powers that are now irrelevant. What makes FSU so special that they wonít be completely irrelevant like former powers such as Nebraska, Miami, USC and not †compete for a NC for 15-20 years?†
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