owlcountry said

dusky256fc said

Fledgling said

owlcountry said

I know of several people at FAU from the West Coast of Florida who had never heard of FAU because FAU didn't visit there during College Day. We didn't even send over brochures. My friends found FAU on the internet, otherwise they would have never known this place existed.

Ok.  So did you not have guidance counselors at your school?  I grew up in Vermont and FAU was at a college fair up there.  I am sure they pick and choose where to go and they have a strategic plan on where they go and when.

I grew up maybe two hours from 3 major universities - University of Vermont, University of New Hampshire and McGill (Montreal).  Do you know how many of those schools sent me brochures? ZERO.


I am all about criticizing FAU's athletic approach when it doesn't work, but I totally disagree with you here.  I think FAU has done a tremendous job cultivating students.  If you look across the board how many students from different countries do we have? How about states?

Call a spade a spade.


In fact, as an alumni I am really offended you said this:

"Personally, I think it's that FAU admits kids who never really had much motivation for anything (they often have low GPA's and weren't involved in clubs/sports/school spirit in high school) and because people don't come in here thinking that FAU is a sports school."

I have two friends, one is a frequent poster on here, that are both going to be doctors that went to FAU. I have another friend that is a lawyer. Don't we have an astronaut alumnus?

I could go on, but I'll stop here.  That is a completely ignorant comment.

I have to agree with you on all points here fledge and not that country needs or wants my help but I think it was just some frustration showing through.

It was some frustration shining through but I stand by what I said.

Sure, I had guidance counselors. So do, I imagine, the people on the west coast of Florida that I'm referring to. The question is why so many of these people say they had never heard of FAU until they found it on the Internet instead of being told by those guidance counselors? Are there so many people who attend FAU from this area – and designate that they come here due to location – because FAU spends most of its recruitment money on local high schools instead of high schools on the west coast or in the Panhandle?

Yes, we get people from out of the country and out of the state. "First-Time-In-College enrollment includes students from 35 states and 54 countries." But it's not a large number of actual students. Of 2,423 FTIC students in Fall 2007, 234 were Non-Florida. Twenty were non-US.

I'm sure it's a budget issue but I feel like one aspect of moving away from a "commuter school" reputation is getting a larger portion of the incoming freshman class from farther away than places like Coral Springs. I don't know if you guys know but residential students at FAU right now are complaining because so many people who live there go home on the weekends. I'm on a Committee about this very thing.

You have people from places like Fort Lauderdale living in HPT and on one hand that's good because that's more residential students – which I want – but at the same time it's robbing the people who stay of a better experience. I'm concerned for those that stay, you see?

Regarding my assertion that "FAU admits kids who never really had much motivation for anything (they often have low GPA's and weren't involved in clubs/sports/school spirit in high school) and because people don't come in here thinking that FAU is a sports school." well, I didn't say all kids never had much motivation, just a lot of them. Sure, FAU spits out alumni who become doctors (I'm on that track myself), laywers, dentists, CEO's, etc… and that's for a lot of reasons (finding diamonds in the rough/ smart, motivated people who are geographically-bound/people who hit their swing in college, etc)… but we also admit a lot more people who end up failing out, who have college GPA's less than 2.0, who don't get involved in clubs and/or sports. We're constantly talking about this on this messageboard: "why aren't people attending the games?" In BOT meetings, they're asking: "Why aren't more people passing their classes and graduating?" In SG Program Board meetings, they're asking: "Why aren't people coming out to our events? Why are we putting on thousand dollar Carnivowls and on a campus with 2500 residential students and 19,000 total students, only 4-500 people show up?"

They're all revolving around the same question in my mind. My proposal, and I'm sorry if it's personally insulting but maybe, just MAYBE, the majority of these people are apathetic. That's why they didn't do better in high school, that's why our incoming GPA/SAT is so low, that's why they don't pass classes and graduate on time, that's why they don't show up at Carnivowls and games.

They just don't care. And as long as FAU is willing to take in these people, instead of sifting through freshman applications by taking a closer look at extracurriculars and motivation in high school, we're going to be asking these questions over and over and beating our heads against the wall. It shouldn't be THIS hard to fill up a 5,000-seat basketball arena that's ON CAMPUS and has been for a long time to see a WINNING team when you have 26,000 current students and nearly 100,000 alumni. It shouldn't be this hard.

But apathetic people certainly would make it hard, don't you agree?

Nunzio42 said

Yes sigep was there, i think 4 of them total.  I was told last night by someone in student gov. they have 160 active members since they are just giving bids out to anyone with a pulse right now…..i guess larger numbers means more points in some greek cup challenge??? dunno.  So 4/160 = poor attendance, AEPi had alumns there (myself and several others) but they also had 1 member there, so 1/20 = poor but still better.   Not here to argue numbers but jsut simply make a point…..No one shows up but ATO

TeamBeer said

Nunzio42 said

Yes sigep was there, i think 4 of them total.  I was told last night by someone in student gov. they have 160 active members since they are just giving bids out to anyone with a pulse right now…..i guess larger numbers means more points in some greek cup challenge??? dunno.  So 4/160 = poor attendance, AEPi had alumns there (myself and several others) but they also had 1 member there, so 1/20 = poor but still better.  Not here to argue numbers but jsut simply make a point…..No one shows up but ATO

You were misinformed. SPE has 40 members as of right now and I agree, if they are going to be the leaders on campus in everything else they should be more visible at basketball games. It's a talk that I've recently had with the president of the chapter and we should see results on Wednesday.
In order to prevent a future mixup of chapter standings at FAU might I suggest you organize your alumni board in order to save your struggling chapter, which I'm sure you'd hate to see shut down, as would I. Sadly, there are only three greek organizations at FAU that have functioning alumni boards and only one is a fraternity. Your chapter needs your help, I'll take care of mine.

TeamBeer said

I'll keep it short as I'm sure we all agree that most on this board don't want to listen to a bunch of recovering frat boys…I agree with you guys completely about game attendance. Our next alumni board meeting is Wednesday before the game, then we're dragging all that attend to the game (as well as having the undergrads meet us there, hopefully it works). My post was more to encourage you to help the organization you guys were so dedicated to in college.No matter what a chapter's situation, they always need a functioning alumni board to support it and keep it on track and sadly most of the chapters on campus don't have this support. So we'll see you guys there tomorrow night, in red, for FAU.

BMarkey said

USF is 11-15 overall and 2-11 in the Big East this year.

Last year, its record was 13-18. The Bulls lost 13 of their last 16 games, and ended the season on a seven-game losing streak.

Women's basketball this year: (12-12, 2-9 Big East). In 2006-07, the women were 21-12.

Baseball was 34-26 last year and lost to the eighth seed in the B.E. tourney.

Men's soccer made the Sweet 16 this season.

Softball is 6-2 this season and was 44-21 (counted quickly) in 2007.

Not terrible but nothing the top 'Belt teams could not equal or better.

walty12 said

Off the top of my head, didn't USF beat us by about 40 points?  I think they scored 100 on us.  I hate to say it, but our basketball program has a ways to go before we are even on the same level as the worst Big East programs.