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Distant Early Warning - Will Jarvis be the Next Head Coach to leave FAU?

Speaking of money in this town and not getting any of it…Honestly, FAU asks for too much money for sponsorships and ads for the product we have right now.  Get the local businesses involved and give them a reasonable cost and they will see the value and renew.  Now we see a local company sponsor for a year or two and then drop out.  They are not seeing the value because it is not there yet.

We need 20 times the local businesses wanting to support this thing.  Until the costs and value get a little closer, FAU is just spending time trying to hit the grand slam with the giant corporations.  We need both local businesses and large corporations.
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+1

we're on a hunt for a $1 mil per year for 20 year committment and we don't even have the basketball suites sold at $5k per year! You have to start somewhere, let people put their names on things, for a very reasonable price, get them hooked and then when the market is there, you can up the prices. Sell those suites for a low price, and me and my friends would've bought one, for the year! It'd be better to have people up there than not!

When someone goes to a game, sees 4 suites all shut down, lights off, what's going to make them want to buy one? Especially when we haven't even seen them attempt to sell em. Have any of you season ticket holders been offered a mid season deal for the last half of the year? I haven't seen anything.
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fauowl said

Speaking of money in this town and not getting any of it…Honestly, FAU asks for too much money for sponsorships and ads for the product we have right now.  Get the local businesses involved and give them a reasonable cost and they will see the value and renew.  Now we see a local company sponsor for a year or two and then drop out.  They are not seeing the value because it is not there yet.

Agreed. Stadium naming rights are now at $10M. Much more reasonable than what it was before. And selling naming rights to Innovation Village is a little stupid IMO, but whatever it takes…

I just hope it doesn't get to the point where I'm listening to a game and Ken has to say, "The score is 21-7 in favor of the Owls here on Betty and Jonathan R. Davis Jr. Field at Downtown Delray H&R Block Stadium in the Papa Johns Pizza Innovation Village of the Boca Raton campus of Florida Atlantic University."
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TeamBeer said

When someone goes to a game, sees 4 suites all shut down, lights off, what's going to make them want to buy one? Especially when we haven't even seen them attempt to sell em.

Oh, were they all empty last night? I've always seen people up there in at least half of them.

I assumed there wasn't a big push for the general public because they only had four and people have already spoken for them.

I know Angelos and Saunders bring people through there, so maybe they have one reserved.
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The only thing to use them last night was Hera the owl, which by the way, aside from the initial stage fright, was freaking awesome, that is a BIG bird and the fact that it eats steak makes me a little concerned for the small children in the arena.  ;)

I am under the impression that that P&C insurance company (I can't believe I'm forgetting their name, it's not helping their advertising is it!) has one booth, maybe it was vacant becuase we played ULM and the other three are only taken ala carte.
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Jab979 said

That's a great point FAUFasho! Look at UM, they were the team to beat throughout the 90's even into the early 2000's. Sending record amounts of players to the NFL, setting records for winning streak at home and then all of a sudden they get put on probation, players start to leave early, coaches are fired and the new coaches don't have as much success, they move to the ACC and have been a middle of the pack team.

Just when they get a new coach and things may start to turn around they get hit with the whole Nevin Shapiro thing. Fans stopped showing up. When they were the hottest ticket in town it didn't matter if it was at the Orange Bowl or Joe Robbie Stadium, every seat would've been filled.

If we put together 3-4 winning seasons in a row including 3-4 Bowl games it wouldn't surprise if we averaged more fans a game then they do

I agree with the underlying notion of winning = more fans.  However Miami is a little different.  First, the majority of thier fans never attended the school because they have a small student body (think about 1/3 of ours).  They are Wal-Mart fans who are only interested in following a winner.  They own a t-shirt (usually with the sleeves cut off) with the schools name on it not a 4-year degree…thats it.  No real vested interest. Second, Pro-Player and the Orange Bowl aren't exactly great destination stadiums.  There is nothing in the area, in fact both areas are dangerous and neither are family friendly.  Therefore going to see a win is the ONLY reason your would go since the atmosphere offers nothing else. Lastly, winning isn't always everything…to most people in the country Miami = bunch of cheating scumbags, I'd rather be known as something else.

Teambeer is the most knowledgeable FAU sports fan I know, way smarter than me.
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FAUfasho said

I've always wondered about this. I mean, it make sense, put a school in a place where there is a lot of money already and the school will get a lot of money…right? Why is it so difficult to get people to give money in such a wealthy place? The only thing we can do is win, winning will solve all our problems. People in south Florida LOVE a winner. Most people don't have any real connection with sports teams down here so why go see a team who you don't care about lose?

The Heat are a perfect example. I am a die-hard Heat fan and I happened to come by some REALLY good (and expensive) tickets for the Pacers game this week. I wasn't sitting with real fans, I was sitting with rich people who go to Heat games for the entertainment (ie. drinks, food, social atmosphere) and not because they genuinely care for the team. Those people are there because the Heat are winning. Every game has been a sell out or close to it the past year. Before that the place was empy, except for the real fans.

If we win, we will fill the place (stadium and the Burrow), if we continue to be mediocre then we'll always struggle for funds.


Most the people at FAU games do have a connection with the University.  In pro sports you should suffer in attendance if you are not good.  Its like a movie, would you sit through a crappy movie because you like the director?  College games are a bit different because you go back to see friends and support your university.  Professional sports just aren't built the same.

Teambeer is the most knowledgeable FAU sports fan I know, way smarter than me.
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walty12 said

Jab979 said

That's a great point FAUFasho! Look at UM, they were the team to beat throughout the 90's even into the early 2000's. Sending record amounts of players to the NFL, setting records for winning streak at home and then all of a sudden they get put on probation, players start to leave early, coaches are fired and the new coaches don't have as much success, they move to the ACC and have been a middle of the pack team.

Just when they get a new coach and things may start to turn around they get hit with the whole Nevin Shapiro thing. Fans stopped showing up. When they were the hottest ticket in town it didn't matter if it was at the Orange Bowl or Joe Robbie Stadium, every seat would've been filled.

If we put together 3-4 winning seasons in a row including 3-4 Bowl games it wouldn't surprise if we averaged more fans a game then they do

I agree with the underlying notion of winning = more fans.  However Miami is a little different.  First, the majority of thier fans never attended the school because they have a small student body (think about 1/3 of ours).  They are Wal-Mart fans who are only interested in following a winner.  They own a t-shirt (usually with the sleeves cut off) with the schools name on it not a 4-year degree…thats it.  No real vested interest. Second, Pro-Player and the Orange Bowl aren't exactly great destination stadiums.  There is nothing in the area, in fact both areas are dangerous and neither are family friendly.  Therefore going to see a win is the ONLY reason your would go since the atmosphere offers nothing else. Lastly, winning isn't always everything…to most people in the country Miami = bunch of cheating scumbags, I'd rather be known as something else.
  The best thing you have ever said on this broad 10000% agree. I have been saying this for ever UM will never be the same program ever. When UM was at its best they not as many teams came down here and recruited there players now as we know everyone recruits down here. Big time SEC and ACC school just have more fans and money then the U has. It is such a joke when you see 35k UM fans at a home conference game. Even UF will always have 90K strong in the swamp even is they are playing the school for the blind. The one UM just can not produce is numbers being such a small school and having most of your students from the North East( if you get top grades in High school in the state of Florida you go to UF a better school 100times cheaper then UM) you can not compete with just the shear numbers all the other public schools have. Walty you say UM fans are Wal-Mart fans i like to say they get all there stuff at champs where they get all there U got swag stuff  ::) then go scalp a 30 dollar ticket to the game of the one big opponent they anything about all year like OU or OSU.
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walty12 said

Most the people at FAU games do have a connection with the University.  In pro sports you should suffer in attendance if you are not good.  Its like a movie, would you sit through a crappy movie because you like the director?  College games are a bit different because you go back to see friends and support your university.  Professional sports just aren't built the same.

My belief has always been the opposite.  I would love to know what % of people that go to FAU football and/or basketball games actually have a connection with the university past or present.   

FAU Class of '87
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BeastOwl said

walty12 said

Most the people at FAU games do have a connection with the University.  In pro sports you should suffer in attendance if you are not good.  Its like a movie, would you sit through a crappy movie because you like the director?  College games are a bit different because you go back to see friends and support your university.  Professional sports just aren't built the same.

My belief has always been the opposite.  I would love to know what % of people that go to FAU football and/or basketball games actually have a connection with the university past or present.

I'm with walty. I would bet that there are more non-affiliated people at the basketball games though… just because it's relatively cheap indoor entertainment. Football is awesome but I know a lot of people who think it's too slow to sit through the heat.

I remember roasting in Gainesville when FAU played UF. Damn. They have a big stadium but it's like a hot plate too with those seats.
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