"For FTIC admissions (starting) Fall 2008, the Office of Undergraduate Admissions should be directed to use, as a guideline, a cutoff of 2.6 HSGPA. Students presenting a 2.6 or below should have their entire records carefully examined and separately considered for admission."


Guess this is the Athletics Dept clause - I know just about ALL schools have "a way' to review admissions apps. lacking in a certain area. Heck, how do you think Stanford, Notre Dame, Wake, Vandy, Virginia and even UM (not to mention the entire Big10) survive if not prosper in sports?

Owl2Doc said

GeorgiaOwl said

What are the minimum GPA and SAT/ACT scores needed to apply for admissions at each Florida U?

Technically, FAU's minimum GPA is 2.6.

I say "technically" because the Academic Committee that recommended it to the BOT for approval requested "For FTIC admissions (starting) Fall 2008, the Office of Undergraduate Admissions should be directed to use, as a guideline, a cutoff of 2.6 HSGPA. Students presenting a 2.6 or below should have their entire records carefully examined and separately considered for admission."

Our minimum SAT is 1360.

Critical Reading 460
Math 460
Writing 440

Obviously that's 1360 by the new 2400 scale, not the old 1600; by the old scale, it's a minimum of ~907 (it should be 1,000+, IMO).
Our average is 1074.

I couldn't find specific cutoffs for FIU. Most universities are 2.0 to apply, even if their average GPA is a 4.something.

If an applicant is not an athlete, then their file is generally not even considered if they do not have a 3.0 GPA and a 1500 SAT. That is just to get looked at, not necessarily accepted.

NJOWL said

If an applicant is not an athlete, then their file is generally not even considered if they do not have a 3.0 GPA and a 1500 SAT. That is just to get looked at, not necessarily accepted.

Interesting - the Admissions Office told you this, I assume?

This number is staggering:

"Well, FIU's stadium opened in 2008, technically, and the university saw a 2,450 student jump between Fall 2008 and Fall 2009. Compare that to FAU's stadium, which opened in 2011, giving us an 11,940 student jump between Fall 2010 and Fall 2011 (12,926 FTIC student jump overall)."

To all those people out there with the opinions of "football is a waste, give the professors a raise"…need to have this posted above thier headboard.  I dont care how much athletic fees are…there isn't a program we could have added or a professor we could have hired that would have had 5% of that much an effect.

walty12 said

there isn't a program we could have added or a professor we could have hired that would have had 5% of that much an effect.

It's really an incredible jump.

And we should see another jump when we introduce Greek Housing…

(A new Student Union wouldn't hurt either… the current one is pretty underwhelming. But nobody's willing to talk about a new Student Union right now for some reason so I have no idea what's going on there. I know USF's new Union, which is pretty much what we need, cost $64M)

Owl2Doc said

walty12 said

there isn't a program we could have added or a professor we could have hired that would have had 5% of that much an effect.

It's really an incredible jump.

And we should see another jump when we introduce Greek Housing…

(A new Student Union wouldn't hurt either… the current one is pretty underwhelming. But nobody's willing to talk about a new Student Union right now for some reason so I have no idea what's going on there. I know USF's new Union, which is pretty much what we need, cost $64M)

I agree, our student union is underwhelming… Here is a thought the building with Admissions and the registrar and all that (SU building right?) with a few million dollars would make a heck of a student union if you ask me, the $60m is something that we won't spend, by the time we could everyone will be complaining our stadium needs to be renovated. Seeing how FAU has cut staff in the SU building it should not be a problem fitting everything into the old student union with a few upgrades.  I think this all could get done for a lot less than 60 million

owlmart said

I agree, our student union is underwhelming… Here is a thought the building with Admissions and the registrar and all that (SU building right?) with a few million dollars would make a heck of a student union if you ask me

It's a great building, maybe not nearly large enough, but it could be if combined with the current Student Union. I believe there are two main issues with using that building:

- It serves an extremely important purpose and the location is ideal - first entrance off Glades Road right by the Visitor's Center. They're not going to give that up.
- Furthermore, people complain that the current SU is decentralized and "too far from where the action is" so the Student Services - that is, the building right next to it - doesn't solve that problem. The campus has a prominent north-south axis, meaning the best place for a new SU is basically right across from the Hillel Center.

owlmart said

the $60m is something that we won't spend, by the time we could everyone will be complaining our stadium needs to be renovated.

It doesn't necessarily have to be that much unless you're constructing an entirely new building. Renovating and expanding an existing building could be done for half of that.

owlmart said

Seeing how FAU has cut staff in the SU building it should not be a problem fitting everything into the old student union with a few upgrades.

They've considered renovating the old SU several times. They did studies, expanded (the Centre Marketplace and Senate Chambers building are the result of that). Then they did more studies when they considered doing it again. Primarily due to the building's age, they don't think it's worth doing again. And again, you have the decentralization issue.

I was told back in 2007 that they were considering renovating the SO building as the next Student Union. Makes sense, there's a lot of activity over there already and some of those programs have taken up shop in new dedicated buildings. Not to mention there's a $25M budget request in the Capital Improvement Plan request for an SO renovation. Curiously though, there's also a $24M request for Administration Building renovation… when it was recently renovated…

could they be planning to merge the two into a superbuilding? Probably a stretch, but can you imagine?!?

There was a big iniative for more applications in 2011 and 2012. That's why we had so many more kids apply in '11. FIU is lucky because sooooo many peope from Miami stay in Miami and go to FIU because they don't want to leave. They also get a decent # of out of staters. FAU does much better around the state than FIU. They don't even recruit in north/northwest FL (my territory). FAU does very well in southwest FL and Tampa area as well as Jacksonville. Also, we look at every student the same but if you're below a 3.0 and 1500 it's tough to get in, although it does happen.

FAUfasho said

There was a big iniative for more applications in 2011 and 2012. That's why we had so many more kids apply in '11.

Ahh. The press releases pointed to things like the stadium more than an increased effort on your behalf. In any case, bravo. Was that "big initiative" a short campaign or is it now the new standard to get X number of applications per year?

FAUfasho said

FIU is lucky because sooooo many people from Miami stay in Miami and go to FIU because they don't want to leave. They also get a decent # of out of staters.

Makes sense.

FAUfasho said

We look at every student the same but if you're below a 3.0 and 1500 it's tough to get in, although it does happen.

So how strict is that 2.6 minimum? Still a guideline or now a strict cutoff?
Will it be raised to 2.8 or 3.0 soon, will it ever, and if not, why not?

I know that's a lot of questions there. Just wondering how quickly we're moving up, or if we're taking very slow, measured steps.

Owl2Doc said

FAUfasho said

There was a big iniative for more applications in 2011 and 2012. That's why we had so many more kids apply in '11.

Ahh. The press releases pointed to things like the stadium more than an increased effort on your behalf. In any case, bravo. Was that "big initiative" a short campaign or is it now the new standard to get X number of applications per year?

FAUfasho said

FIU is lucky because sooooo many people from Miami stay in Miami and go to FIU because they don't want to leave. They also get a decent # of out of staters.

Makes sense.

FAUfasho said

We look at every student the same but if you're below a 3.0 and 1500 it's tough to get in, although it does happen.

So how strict is that 2.6 minimum? Still a guideline or now a strict cutoff?
Will it be raised to 2.8 or 3.0 soon, will it ever, and if not, why not?

I know that's a lot of questions there. Just wondering how quickly we're moving up, or if we're taking very slow, measured steps.

The big initiative is still going on. They email, call, and advertise all over the country.

Believe it or not, FAU has the highest minimum GPA in the state. This will not be raised. If it was, then we would never get some of our athletes in. And it is no longer used as a guideline. We take the most competitive students possible in every class. But our new admission guidelines are as stated above: 3.0 GPA and 1500 SAT …. The stated minimum of 2.6 means nothing, that just means they will review your application.

Let me know if you have any other questions about this.