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Isiah on his way out?

owlmart said

owlcountry said

A few interesting tidbits in this recent Palm Beach Post Commentary, including:


"I like the challenge. I like teaching. I like the kids. As long as I'm in a gym doing what I love to do, I'm good."

So, he's in for the duration of his five-year deal?

"I don't think that's fair to ask anyone,"
Thomas said. "I like where I am right now. I like living in Florida. But if I say I'm going to be here and then I don't stay, it's 'He's a bum.' "

Kind of defeats the purpose of a 'contract' but FIU knew what they were getting into.

So when other coaches leave programs before their contract ends, they are seeking better opportunities. When programs fire a coach before his contracts ends, they are seeking better options. But if IT says it's not a fair question to ask, his answer "defeats the purpose of a contract"? He should do like the others and lie then leaves "he is a bum"? Talk about a lose\lose situation.

If IT goes at the end of the season we will have to find another coach just like FAU would have to do if Jarvis leaves at the end of the season (like a previous FAU coach did). IT just does not believe he needs to lie when everyone knows that is how the game is played.

About IT lack of coaching skills, I look at last Saturday's game like this: 14 pt underdogs on the road, sold out arena, fans and players hyped on rivalry, losing by 1 pt. Either we have much better talent than FAU and a piss poor coach or FIU have a decent coach with about the same talent level as FAU.

Just my .02.
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FIU4ever said

owlmart said

owlcountry said

A few interesting tidbits in this recent Palm Beach Post Commentary, including:


"I like the challenge. I like teaching. I like the kids. As long as I'm in a gym doing what I love to do, I'm good."

So, he's in for the duration of his five-year deal?

"I don't think that's fair to ask anyone,"
Thomas said. "I like where I am right now. I like living in Florida. But if I say I'm going to be here and then I don't stay, it's 'He's a bum.' "

Kind of defeats the purpose of a 'contract' but FIU knew what they were getting into.

So when other coaches leave programs before their contract ends, they are seeking better opportunities. When programs fire a coach before his contracts ends, they are seeking better options. But if IT says it's not a fair question to ask, his answer "defeats the purpose of a contract"? He should do like the others and lie then leaves "he is a bum"? Talk about a lose\lose situation.

If IT goes at the end of the season we will have to find another coach just like FAU would have to do if Jarvis leaves at the end of the season (like a previous FAU coach did). IT just does not believe he needs to lie when everyone knows that is how the game is played.

About IT lack of coaching skills, I look at last Saturday's game like this: 14 pt underdogs on the road, sold out arena, fans and players hyped on rivalry, losing by 1 pt. Either we have much better talent than FAU and a piss poor coach or FIU have a decent coach with about the same talent level as FAU.

Just my .02.

Leaving FIU wouldn't make IT a bum….pretty much everything he has done since he stopped playing makes him a bum…this would just add to it.

I know you are an FIU fan and you just want to support your coach and all, but I assume you are a South Floridian first…and no self-respecting South Floridian should want someone who is actively trying to help the Knicks to succeed at anything.  GO HEAT!!  ;D
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FIU4ever said

owlmart said

owlcountry said

A few interesting tidbits in this recent Palm Beach Post Commentary, including:


"I like the challenge. I like teaching. I like the kids. As long as I'm in a gym doing what I love to do, I'm good."

So, he's in for the duration of his five-year deal?

"I don't think that's fair to ask anyone,"
Thomas said. "I like where I am right now. I like living in Florida. But if I say I'm going to be here and then I don't stay, it's 'He's a bum.' "

Kind of defeats the purpose of a 'contract' but FIU knew what they were getting into.

So when other coaches leave programs before their contract ends, they are seeking better opportunities. When programs fire a coach before his contracts ends, they are seeking better options. But if IT says it's not a fair question to ask, his answer "defeats the purpose of a contract"? He should do like the others and lie then leaves "he is a bum"? Talk about a lose\lose situation.

If IT goes at the end of the season we will have to find another coach just like FAU would have to do if Jarvis leaves at the end of the season (like a previous FAU coach did). IT just does not believe he needs to lie when everyone knows that is how the game is played.

About IT lack of coaching skills, I look at last Saturday's game like this: 14 pt underdogs on the road, sold out arena, fans and players hyped on rivalry, losing by 1 pt. Either we have much better talent than FAU and a piss poor coach or FIU have a decent coach with about the same talent level as FAU.

Just my .02.
Well by definition is a contract not a binding agreement by two or more parties?  if one party broke the contract without penalty wouldn't that…dare I say 'defeat the purpose of a contract'?  We are talking about Isiah Thomas so I referred to Isiah Thomas if we were talking about other coaches I would have referred to other coaches…but hey its…

Just my .02.
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owlmart said

FIU4ever said

owlmart said

owlcountry said

A few interesting tidbits in this recent Palm Beach Post Commentary, including:


"I like the challenge. I like teaching. I like the kids. As long as I'm in a gym doing what I love to do, I'm good."

So, he's in for the duration of his five-year deal?

"I don't think that's fair to ask anyone,"
Thomas said. "I like where I am right now. I like living in Florida. But if I say I'm going to be here and then I don't stay, it's 'He's a bum.' "

Kind of defeats the purpose of a 'contract' but FIU knew what they were getting into.

So when other coaches leave programs before their contract ends, they are seeking better opportunities. When programs fire a coach before his contracts ends, they are seeking better options. But if IT says it's not a fair question to ask, his answer "defeats the purpose of a contract"? He should do like the others and lie then leaves "he is a bum"? Talk about a lose\lose situation.

If IT goes at the end of the season we will have to find another coach just like FAU would have to do if Jarvis leaves at the end of the season (like a previous FAU coach did). IT just does not believe he needs to lie when everyone knows that is how the game is played.

About IT lack of coaching skills, I look at last Saturday's game like this: 14 pt underdogs on the road, sold out arena, fans and players hyped on rivalry, losing by 1 pt. Either we have much better talent than FAU and a piss poor coach or FIU have a decent coach with about the same talent level as FAU.

Just my .02.
Well by definition is a contract not a binding agreement by two or more parties?  if one party broke the contract without penalty wouldn't that…dare I say 'defeat the purpose of a contract'?  We are talking about Isiah Thomas so I referred to Isiah Thomas if we were talking about other coaches I would have referred to other coaches…but hey its…

Just my .02.

Well if it is a contract, then it would have the appropriate conditions for terminating the contract and penalties. Just like Javis contract. Does that mean Javis cannot leave before his "binding contract" end date? How is the definition of a contract different for IT? Hence how does his statement defeat the definition? That is .04 now.
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fauowls44 said

FIU4ever said

owlmart said

owlcountry said

A few interesting tidbits in this recent Palm Beach Post Commentary, including:


"I like the challenge. I like teaching. I like the kids. As long as I'm in a gym doing what I love to do, I'm good."

So, he's in for the duration of his five-year deal?

"I don't think that's fair to ask anyone,"
Thomas said. "I like where I am right now. I like living in Florida. But if I say I'm going to be here and then I don't stay, it's 'He's a bum.' "

Kind of defeats the purpose of a 'contract' but FIU knew what they were getting into.

So when other coaches leave programs before their contract ends, they are seeking better opportunities. When programs fire a coach before his contracts ends, they are seeking better options. But if IT says it's not a fair question to ask, his answer "defeats the purpose of a contract"? He should do like the others and lie then leaves "he is a bum"? Talk about a lose\lose situation.

If IT goes at the end of the season we will have to find another coach just like FAU would have to do if Jarvis leaves at the end of the season (like a previous FAU coach did). IT just does not believe he needs to lie when everyone knows that is how the game is played.

About IT lack of coaching skills, I look at last Saturday's game like this: 14 pt underdogs on the road, sold out arena, fans and players hyped on rivalry, losing by 1 pt. Either we have much better talent than FAU and a piss poor coach or FIU have a decent coach with about the same talent level as FAU.

Just my .02.

Leaving FIU wouldn't make IT a bum….pretty much everything he has done since he stopped playing makes him a bum…this would just add to it.

I know you are an FIU fan and you just want to support your coach and all, but I assume you are a South Floridian first…and no self-respecting South Floridian should want someone who is actively trying to help the Knicks to succeed at anything.  GO HEAT!!   ;D

So you were ok with IT before the LeBron saga?? Come on, you can do better than that.
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Actually, I was fine with IT running the Knicks into the ground.  When he sexually harrassed a woman working for him is when I started considering him a scumbag.  Him trying to steer NBA players to NY just made me hate him even more.  What I don't get is you being fine with him trying to work for the Knicks while running your team. If it were me, I don't care how famous he is, either devote all your time coaching my team or leave.  But since you mentioned it, you wouldn't have minded if he convinced Lebron and/or Wade to sign with NY?
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FIU4ever said

owlmart said

FIU4ever said

owlmart said

owlcountry said

A few interesting tidbits in this recent Palm Beach Post Commentary, including:


"I like the challenge. I like teaching. I like the kids. As long as I'm in a gym doing what I love to do, I'm good."

So, he's in for the duration of his five-year deal?

"I don't think that's fair to ask anyone,"
Thomas said. "I like where I am right now. I like living in Florida. But if I say I'm going to be here and then I don't stay, it's 'He's a bum.' "

Kind of defeats the purpose of a 'contract' but FIU knew what they were getting into.

So when other coaches leave programs before their contract ends, they are seeking better opportunities. When programs fire a coach before his contracts ends, they are seeking better options. But if IT says it's not a fair question to ask, his answer "defeats the purpose of a contract"? He should do like the others and lie then leaves "he is a bum"? Talk about a lose\lose situation.

If IT goes at the end of the season we will have to find another coach just like FAU would have to do if Jarvis leaves at the end of the season (like a previous FAU coach did). IT just does not believe he needs to lie when everyone knows that is how the game is played.

About IT lack of coaching skills, I look at last Saturday's game like this: 14 pt underdogs on the road, sold out arena, fans and players hyped on rivalry, losing by 1 pt. Either we have much better talent than FAU and a piss poor coach or FIU have a decent coach with about the same talent level as FAU.

Just my .02.
Well by definition is a contract not a binding agreement by two or more parties?  if one party broke the contract without penalty wouldn't that…dare I say 'defeat the purpose of a contract'?  We are talking about Isiah Thomas so I referred to Isiah Thomas if we were talking about other coaches I would have referred to other coaches…but hey its…

Just my .02.

Well if it is a contract, then it would have the appropriate conditions for terminating the contract and penalties. Just like Javis contract. Does that mean Javis cannot leave before his "binding contract" end date? How is the definition of a contract different for IT? Hence how does his statement defeat the definition? That is .04 now.
I will break it down not just for you but because I do not feel my point is coming across and I can do it more effectively…Of course Jarvis can leave however he has not given any hint that he plans on doing so but if he said something such as what Isiah said at this time I would think it's unprofessional and uncalled for.  Isiah is a reflection of your school not mine if it doesn't bother you then fine.  As far as the contract issue it's not just an Isiah issue it happens everywhere doesn't mean I have to agree to it or think that it is an okay thing to do but since we are specifically talking about Isiah it refers to him…You don't think I was upset when our coach left?
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Isn't IT working for free? Does he even have a buyout?

FIU has really come along these past few seasons by hiring young hungry coaches, cristobal and IT haven't perfected the craft but they can get talent. Unfortunately their upside makes them attractive to other programs with deeper pockets. Were both gonna battle that for a long time. I just hope Jarvis' age and desire to stay in Boca keeps him here till retirement.
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The 1 thing I'm having a hard time agreeing with. You said FIU lost to us by 1 point, so by your reasoning either Isiah is coaching up his players or Jarvis isn't that good of a coach and his players are really good. I know those weren't your word exactly so I'm paraphrasing…..

So St. Johns recently beat Duke, does that mean Steve Lavin is a better coach, than Coach K? Or that maybe the players on Duke aren't that good but coach K is such a great coach they're overachieving?

Just like in football, any team can beat any team on any given day.

FIU has a lot of talented players on their roster, too bad your coach sucks.

Maybe if they had a real coach in there who isn't there until he finds something better they'd be really good.

I understand that's how it works, Doherty and Rex did the same to FAU. Stay until they find something better and look where that got us. No where

My two favorite teams are FAU, and who ever is beating FIU!
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Jab979 said

The 1 thing I'm having a hard time agreeing with. You said FIU lost to us by 1 point, so by your reasoning either Isiah is coaching up his players or Jarvis isn't that good of a coach and his players are really good. I know those weren't your word exactly so I'm paraphrasing…..

So St. Johns recently beat Duke, does that mean Steve Lavin is a better coach, than Coach K? Or that maybe the players on Duke aren't that good but coach K is such a great coach they're overachieving?

Just like in football, any team can beat any team on any given day.

FIU has a lot of talented players on their roster, too bad your coach sucks.

Maybe if they had a real coach in there who isn't there until he finds something better they'd be really good.

I understand that's how it works, Doherty and Rex did the same to FAU. Stay until they find something better and look where that got us. No where

Jab, It doesn't bother me if you all hate IT and think he is a rapist or a bum or whatever is the latest buzz smack you want to throw his and FIU's way. My point is this:

1) If he can't coach, then he cannot coach. No two ways about it. Does everyone from Del Boca Vista Phase II think IT is clueless when it comes to coaching? Yes. If we go on that premise, then it wasn't IT's influence that kept your guys down for most of the game. But it also means FIU has better talent than FAU because only better talent can keep a team in a game when they are being held back by clueless coaching.

2)Are Lavin and Coach K clueless when it comes to coaching? No. Saying St Johns upset Duke is similar to FIU/FAU when you already said FIU's coach is crap is in fact saying St. John's coach is crap as well.

All I'm saying is you can't have your cake and eat it too. You talk about an "improbable" (borrowing from FIU Pres) comeback but you are not willing to say the other team (players and coaches) was good. Winning by 1 pt in the last few seconds against a bad team with a bad coach means you are not so good.

@the contract guru, if the contract situation is the same for ALL coaches (whichever sport), why throw that in a "I hate IT" thread? You really should save that for the "I hate all coaches" thread. What happen, run out of ideas?

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