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Inside the Burrow 2020 Ep 21: Montgomery Bowl Preview

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jgf2017 said

There needs to be changes in who gets to the NY6 bowl. Because now G5 teams like Cincinnati are all scared to schedule road games against great teams because they’re worried a loss will knock them out of the NY6 bowl.

Why is there even a debate about this being complicated? If UCF wanted to play at Alabama they would take it in a heartbeat to give UCF a monumental beat down. 

There needs to be maybe a strength of schedule formula in deciding which G5 team makes the NY6. Right now they’re all scared to play good P5 teams. Poll voters need to award G5 teams who will take the chance at playing road games at a team like Alabama.  

Now they’re avoiding them and trying to get media exposure. Then they claim they’re being left out of the playoff. That’s pretty gutless and it’s like they’re all publicity hungry.
Posted On: Dec 22nd 2020, 10:59 AM #399269
Here is my problem with the whole system, it is becoming too much like boxing.  And the scheduling and not fighting due to money, stature, ducking, etc in boxing is what kills the sport.

Allowed to pick and choose who you play and play politics with it.

The playoff system, like Shane mentioned, needs to be inclusive enough where you have to prove it on the field.  I dont care how many teams end up getting in, but if you win your D1 conference you should be in a playoff.  Just how it should work.  

Teambeer is the most knowledgeable FAU sports fan I know, way smarter than me.
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THAT is what makes March madness so good, the underdog Cinderella aspects!!! P5 is an illegal MONOPOLY IMHO. established to consolidate POWER AND MONEY!!!! In fact AAC was Big East and literally bumped out!!!
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jgf2017 said

There needs to be changes in who gets to the NY6 bowl. Because now G5 teams like Cincinnati are all scared to schedule road games against great teams because they’re worried a loss will knock them out of the NY6 bowl.

Why is there even a debate about this being complicated? If UCF wanted to play at Alabama they would take it in a heartbeat to give UCF a monumental beat down. 

There needs to be maybe a strength of schedule formula in deciding which G5 team makes the NY6. Right now they’re all scared to play good P5 teams. Poll voters need to award G5 teams who will take the chance at playing road games at a team like Alabama.  

Now they’re avoiding them and trying to get media exposure. Then they claim they’re being left out of the playoff. That’s pretty gutless and it’s like they’re all publicity hungry.
Posted On: Dec 22nd 2020, 10:59 AM #399269

JUst be quiet. I have said over and over why UCF does not do 1 and dones. Games are made years in advance and year to year, teams you schedule can be good or not so good.   It is no different than a playoff team having an weak opponent in one round.  Don't call something a playoff when 70% of teams are eliminated before 1st game.  Coastal is proof that you can even add a great team to an already scheduled schedule and still be snubbed.

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The constant, Alabama, Clemson, OH State + random team from a pool of 10 as "playoff' teams is getting old.  OH State and ND have no busy being in the CFB invitational this year.  Its an invitational not a playoff since its all based on size of fanbase.  Of course thru time yes the teams which are invited and get better players since they can promise a spot in 'playoff' Its a rigged system but when UCF and FAU are on the right side of the glass it will not be as bad. Till then its dog eat dog.
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rob2313 said

JUst be quiet.


Posted On: Dec 22nd 2020, 1:48 PM #399273

it has been quiet, let's not change that.

 :Winking:

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If a G5 team made the playoffs they’d be the 4th seed and I’d bet both arms and legs against $1 that they’d get creamed by an Alabama or Clemson by 50 points. What’s the point?

What they need to do is play one of those teams in the regular season. Maybe they don’t need to schedule the absolute best but take chances with an LSU or Oregon or Auburn, teams that are good to great but aren’t every year going to cream everyone.

They only way I’d feel any sympathy for a Cincinnati is if they beat UCF by 30+ and beat a team like LSU or Oregon at their place in the regular season.

At least that way there’s a possibility they could give an Alabama or Clemson a game if they ran the table.

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walty12 said

jgf2017 said

There needs to be changes in who gets to the NY6 bowl. Because now G5 teams like Cincinnati are all scared to schedule road games against great teams because they’re worried a loss will knock them out of the NY6 bowl.

Why is there even a debate about this being complicated? If UCF wanted to play at Alabama they would take it in a heartbeat to give UCF a monumental beat down. 

There needs to be maybe a strength of schedule formula in deciding which G5 team makes the NY6. Right now they’re all scared to play good P5 teams. Poll voters need to award G5 teams who will take the chance at playing road games at a team like Alabama.  

Now they’re avoiding them and trying to get media exposure. Then they claim they’re being left out of the playoff. That’s pretty gutless and it’s like they’re all publicity hungry.
Posted On: Dec 22nd 2020, 10:59 AM #399269
Here is my problem with the whole system, it is becoming too much like boxing.  And the scheduling and not fighting due to money, stature, ducking, etc in boxing is what kills the sport.

Allowed to pick and choose who you play and play politics with it.

The playoff system, like Shane mentioned, needs to be inclusive enough where you have to prove it on the field.  I dont care how many teams end up getting in, but if you win your D1 conference you should be in a playoff.  Just how it should work.  

Posted On: Dec 22nd 2020, 11:09 AM #399270

Yup, scheduling is also more than "who you play.''


In 2019 Alabama did not play back-to-back road games all season.

They had a bye before LSU and an FCS before Auburn.

They always make sure they are at their best.

Other schools do not get handed that luxury and do not, for example, play a triple-option team then have to go on the road four days later, which makes them prime for an upset.


The SOS of schedule argument is ridiculous and bias that is based on mostly inaccurate pre-season rankings.

OSU looks like a top-four team?

But the ESPN's of the world have created this narrative where you have the JFG's of the world screaming about SOS and accusing people of "being scared" when that is not true.

The real reason a UCF or Cincy does not get invited is….. money.

Each Power 5 conference gets a base payout of 66 million-plus 6 million for each team that makes the playoff.

The entire G5 gets 90 million, so it becomes about 3-5 million less per school.

The powers that be want to keep school like Cincy out because it prevents the little guys from getting some money.

So, it doesn't matter who loses to Bama 48-10 as long as Cincy or UCF does not get the money they could use to grow their programs, gain national recognition, or even worse, the AAC says they have right to the 66 million over the Big 12 or Pac 12.

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And college scheduling is not a level playing field either,

In ANY pro sports, ALL teams play balanced H-A schedules. NFL 8H-8A for ALL teams, MLB 81H-81A for All TEAMS.

In college football some P5 teams schedule 8H-4A and most 7H-5A while MANY G5 teams have to play 5H-7A! Also makes it much harder to compete when right off the bat your team has a scheduling disadvantage.

Finally, it is a FACT that many P5 teams WILL NOT play good G5 teams in fear of LOSING!
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