Way too early names to consider for potential coaching vacancy
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He was hired here as the DC and nobody said anything.
Same thing with Briles. His baggage was more fresh when he was hired here by Lane Kiffin. It's been 4 years since he left and he has been hired by pretty well known programs, so not sure why the baggage matters now. Briles is NOT coming here. He makes good money at Arkansas.
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NITE-OWL said
Leavitt? what baggage? because hi slapped or strangled some kid like more than 10 years ago?
He was hired here as the DC and nobody said anything.
Same thing with Briles. His baggage was more fresh when he was hired here by Lane Kiffin. It's been 4 years since he left and he has been hired by pretty well known programs, so not sure why the baggage matters now. Briles is NOT coming here. He makes good money at Arkansas.Posted On: Oct 11th 2022, 10:33 AM #409156
It doesn't matter to me. I think Leavitt is great coach and he would be an outstanding fit for FAU. However, there seems to still be a stigma with Leavitt and you can bet administrators will think long and hard about it. That is likely why he has not received another HC position after his fall from grace.
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ROwl2007 said
I wouldn't be against Frost, he's shown he can coach successfully in the American. I just think that if FAU is moves away from Taggart it has to be with ample time to make an impact/avoid a disaster in recruiting.
Weiss Jr, not so sure.
I think I prefer somebody with HC experience, first hire in the AAC has to be a sureshot.
What about Matt Entz? Klieman is working great at KSU and NDS is the defending national champ.Posted On: Oct 11th 2022, 10:14 AM #409155
Entz is a solid coach. NDSU seems to churn them out. I wonder though how he would fit in South Florida. Could he recruit the state in a competitive manner? I think Klieman is having success due in part to familiarity with recruiting territory. Also, like it or not, program and regional culture matter. NDSU and FAU are very different. I expect Entz would be a better fit at a midwest program with more of a hometown atmosphere. Maybe Colorado looks his way, or perhaps Wisconsin.
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owlfan1 said
ROwl2007 said
I wouldn't be against Frost, he's shown he can coach successfully in the American. I just think that if FAU is moves away from Taggart it has to be with ample time to make an impact/avoid a disaster in recruiting.
Weiss Jr, not so sure.
I think I prefer somebody with HC experience, first hire in the AAC has to be a sureshot.
What about Matt Entz? Klieman is working great at KSU and NDS is the defending national champ.Posted On: Oct 11th 2022, 10:14 AM #409155
Entz is a solid coach. NDSU seems to churn them out. I wonder though how he would fit in South Florida. Could he recruit the state in a competitive manner? I think Klieman is having success due in part to familiarity with recruiting territory. Also, like it or not, program and regional culture matter. NDSU and FAU are very different. I expect Entz would be a better fit at a midwest program with more of a hometown atmosphere. Maybe Colorado looks his way, or perhaps Wisconsin.
GO OWLS!!!Posted On: Oct 11th 2022, 11:44 AM #409158
If and when the time comes we need to concentrate on coaching ability versus recruiting ability. Having a HC that's a good recruiter hasn't worked for us.
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also the price. We can pay much better than NDS
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cbboarder said
owlfan1 said
ROwl2007 said
I wouldn't be against Frost, he's shown he can coach successfully in the American. I just think that if FAU is moves away from Taggart it has to be with ample time to make an impact/avoid a disaster in recruiting.
Weiss Jr, not so sure.
I think I prefer somebody with HC experience, first hire in the AAC has to be a sureshot.
What about Matt Entz? Klieman is working great at KSU and NDS is the defending national champ.Posted On: Oct 11th 2022, 10:14 AM #409155
Entz is a solid coach. NDSU seems to churn them out. I wonder though how he would fit in South Florida. Could he recruit the state in a competitive manner? I think Klieman is having success due in part to familiarity with recruiting territory. Also, like it or not, program and regional culture matter. NDSU and FAU are very different. I expect Entz would be a better fit at a midwest program with more of a hometown atmosphere. Maybe Colorado looks his way, or perhaps Wisconsin.
GO OWLS!!!Posted On: Oct 11th 2022, 11:44 AM #409158
If and when the time comes we need to concentrate on coaching ability versus recruiting ability. Having a HC that's a good recruiter hasn't worked for us.
Go Owls!Posted On: Oct 11th 2022, 11:57 AM #409159
It has though…you just don't always see until that coach is gone. Howards poor recruiting at the end hurt us then Pelini went heavy JUCO, and who knows what would have happen if he was here 3-4 years.
Charlie came in a recruited his ass off in the high school ranks and got about 10 players to the league, he ran out of time before a lot of those guys grew up. A lot Lane's success came from the work Charlie did and he said as much many times.
Lane had too many misses and it has taken this staff 3 years just to rebuild a position like WR.
G5 programs who are always in the 7-10 win range recruit well, so even if the guy does not work or leaves for bigger job there is not a rebuild. Look at ULL, Coastal, and App st, they are always in the top third in their league recruiting.
It is why it can be risky to hire fast raising coordinator who is trying to puddle jump some are not thinking what the roster might look like in 3-5 years.
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Owls2013 said
cbboarder said
owlfan1 said
ROwl2007 said
I wouldn't be against Frost, he's shown he can coach successfully in the American. I just think that if FAU is moves away from Taggart it has to be with ample time to make an impact/avoid a disaster in recruiting.
Weiss Jr, not so sure.
I think I prefer somebody with HC experience, first hire in the AAC has to be a sureshot.
What about Matt Entz? Klieman is working great at KSU and NDS is the defending national champ.Posted On: Oct 11th 2022, 10:14 AM #409155
Entz is a solid coach. NDSU seems to churn them out. I wonder though how he would fit in South Florida. Could he recruit the state in a competitive manner? I think Klieman is having success due in part to familiarity with recruiting territory. Also, like it or not, program and regional culture matter. NDSU and FAU are very different. I expect Entz would be a better fit at a midwest program with more of a hometown atmosphere. Maybe Colorado looks his way, or perhaps Wisconsin.
GO OWLS!!!Posted On: Oct 11th 2022, 11:44 AM #409158
If and when the time comes we need to concentrate on coaching ability versus recruiting ability. Having a HC that's a good recruiter hasn't worked for us.
Go Owls!Posted On: Oct 11th 2022, 11:57 AM #409159
It has though…you just don't always see until that coach is gone. Howards poor recruiting at the end hurt us then Pelini went heavy JUCO, and who knows what would have happen if he was here 3-4 years.
Charlie came in a recruited his ass off in the high school ranks and got about 10 players to the league, he ran out of time before a lot of those guys grew up. A lot Lane's success came from the work Charlie did and he said as much many times.
Lane had too many misses and it has taken this staff 3 years just to rebuild a position like WR.
G5 programs who are always in the 7-10 win range recruit well, so even if the guy does not work or leaves for bigger job there is not a rebuild. Look at ULL, Coastal, and App st, they are always in the top third in their league recruiting.
It is why it can be risky to hire fast raising coordinator who is trying to puddle jump some are not thinking what the roster might look like in 3-5 years.Posted On: Oct 11th 2022, 1:44 PM #409163
If you're winning games the recruits will come. Both CP and WT are great recruiters but they suck at winning games. I'd rather have a coach that knows how to win…..
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cbboarder said
Owls2013 said
cbboarder said
owlfan1 said
ROwl2007 said
I wouldn't be against Frost, he's shown he can coach successfully in the American. I just think that if FAU is moves away from Taggart it has to be with ample time to make an impact/avoid a disaster in recruiting.
Weiss Jr, not so sure.
I think I prefer somebody with HC experience, first hire in the AAC has to be a sureshot.
What about Matt Entz? Klieman is working great at KSU and NDS is the defending national champ.Posted On: Oct 11th 2022, 10:14 AM #409155
Entz is a solid coach. NDSU seems to churn them out. I wonder though how he would fit in South Florida. Could he recruit the state in a competitive manner? I think Klieman is having success due in part to familiarity with recruiting territory. Also, like it or not, program and regional culture matter. NDSU and FAU are very different. I expect Entz would be a better fit at a midwest program with more of a hometown atmosphere. Maybe Colorado looks his way, or perhaps Wisconsin.
GO OWLS!!!Posted On: Oct 11th 2022, 11:44 AM #409158
If and when the time comes we need to concentrate on coaching ability versus recruiting ability. Having a HC that's a good recruiter hasn't worked for us.
Go Owls!Posted On: Oct 11th 2022, 11:57 AM #409159
It has though…you just don't always see until that coach is gone. Howards poor recruiting at the end hurt us then Pelini went heavy JUCO, and who knows what would have happen if he was here 3-4 years.
Charlie came in a recruited his ass off in the high school ranks and got about 10 players to the league, he ran out of time before a lot of those guys grew up. A lot Lane's success came from the work Charlie did and he said as much many times.
Lane had too many misses and it has taken this staff 3 years just to rebuild a position like WR.
G5 programs who are always in the 7-10 win range recruit well, so even if the guy does not work or leaves for bigger job there is not a rebuild. Look at ULL, Coastal, and App st, they are always in the top third in their league recruiting.
It is why it can be risky to hire fast raising coordinator who is trying to puddle jump some are not thinking what the roster might look like in 3-5 years.Posted On: Oct 11th 2022, 1:44 PM #409163
If you're winning games the recruits will come. Both CP and WT are great recruiters but they suck at winning games. I'd rather have a coach that knows how to win…..
Go Owls!Posted On: Oct 11th 2022, 2:12 PM #409164
All I am saying is sacrificing recruiting for a coach just because he's a creative play caller is not great for the long term health of any program. You need both.
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