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Willie Taggart in the ACC, Past FSU Performance, and as a Coach

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SeminOwl28 said

Owls2013 said

faufan300 said

Had no ideas about the injuries, but I believe we have raw pure talent. A good coach can coach up their second and third stringers.  This is off topic I had a coworker that played for Taggart at WKU and he literally told me he was terrible.  Nobody took him seriously there, soo there you go those backups could care less.  The calls were bad and Perry looked good.  Now Mccammon is a workhorse,  I wonder how dynamic the offense will be with Ford.  If ford doesn’t play in the UCF game we are in trouble.  I loved the fight,  I think that was more Dearmon.
Posted On: Sep 5th 2022, 5:45 PM #408113

Yes, because you can simply coach up back ups with little game experience to become guys Evan Anderson and Jaylon Joyner who have years of starting experience in just one week. And you know this because what a guy said at work about the head coach from over 30 years ago….
Posted On: Sep 6th 2022, 8:18 AM #408119

Taggart coached at wku just 10 years ago in 2012.  

Posted On: Sep 6th 2022, 1:15 PM #408122

You just complained about the team possibly going 8-4 this season. 8-2 Is solid good considering 2 games built in vs P5 programs (UCF soon to be and ahead of most P5)

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SeminOwl28 said

Owls2013 said

faufan300 said

Had no ideas about the injuries, but I believe we have raw pure talent. A good coach can coach up their second and third stringers.  This is off topic I had a coworker that played for Taggart at WKU and he literally told me he was terrible.  Nobody took him seriously there, soo there you go those backups could care less.  The calls were bad and Perry looked good.  Now Mccammon is a workhorse,  I wonder how dynamic the offense will be with Ford.  If ford doesn’t play in the UCF game we are in trouble.  I loved the fight,  I think that was more Dearmon.
Posted On: Sep 5th 2022, 5:45 PM #408113

Yes, because you can simply coach up back ups with little game experience to become guys Evan Anderson and Jaylon Joyner who have years of starting experience in just one week. And you know this because what a guy said at work about the head coach from over 30 years ago….
Posted On: Sep 6th 2022, 8:18 AM #408119

Taggart coached at wku just 10 years ago in 2012.  

Posted On: Sep 6th 2022, 1:15 PM #408122

And took them from 0-12 to bowling. Don't let facts get in the way of your bias though.
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Owls2013 said

SeminOwl28 said

Owls2013 said

faufan300 said

Had no ideas about the injuries, but I believe we have raw pure talent. A good coach can coach up their second and third stringers.  This is off topic I had a coworker that played for Taggart at WKU and he literally told me he was terrible.  Nobody took him seriously there, soo there you go those backups could care less.  The calls were bad and Perry looked good.  Now Mccammon is a workhorse,  I wonder how dynamic the offense will be with Ford.  If ford doesn’t play in the UCF game we are in trouble.  I loved the fight,  I think that was more Dearmon.
Posted On: Sep 5th 2022, 5:45 PM #408113

Yes, because you can simply coach up back ups with little game experience to become guys Evan Anderson and Jaylon Joyner who have years of starting experience in just one week. And you know this because what a guy said at work about the head coach from over 30 years ago….
Posted On: Sep 6th 2022, 8:18 AM #408119

Taggart coached at wku just 10 years ago in 2012.  

Posted On: Sep 6th 2022, 1:15 PM #408122

And took them from 0-12 to bowling. Don't let facts get in the way of your bias though.

Posted On: Sep 6th 2022, 3:32 PM #408125

And you have a bias the other way clearly.  Maybe you are one of his boys or something cuz he is torpedoing our program right now

All I was pointing out was your 30 year comment was ridiculous.   
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Owls2013 said

SeminOwl28 said

Owls2013 said

faufan300 said

Had no ideas about the injuries, but I believe we have raw pure talent. A good coach can coach up their second and third stringers.  This is off topic I had a coworker that played for Taggart at WKU and he literally told me he was terrible.  Nobody took him seriously there, soo there you go those backups could care less.  The calls were bad and Perry looked good.  Now Mccammon is a workhorse,  I wonder how dynamic the offense will be with Ford.  If ford doesn’t play in the UCF game we are in trouble.  I loved the fight,  I think that was more Dearmon.
Posted On: Sep 5th 2022, 5:45 PM #408113

Yes, because you can simply coach up back ups with little game experience to become guys Evan Anderson and Jaylon Joyner who have years of starting experience in just one week. And you know this because what a guy said at work about the head coach from over 30 years ago….
Posted On: Sep 6th 2022, 8:18 AM #408119

Taggart coached at wku just 10 years ago in 2012.  

Posted On: Sep 6th 2022, 1:15 PM #408122

You just complained about the team possibly going 8-4 this season. 8-2 Is solid good considering 2 games built in vs P5 programs (UCF soon to be and ahead of most P5)


Posted On: Sep 6th 2022, 3:30 PM #408124

No.  I said if they go 8-4 or better he will definitely be coaching here next year.  Doesn't mean I think he's a good coach.  

They can go 7-5 beating teams that are nothing special because teams 5-11 in cusa aren't very good this year and they have a chump fcs team this week

7-5 could be this :

Charlotte
UTEP
Middle Tennessee
Fiu
Rice
North Texas
Chump fcs

Losing to every team with a pulse.  To me that shouldn't be enough to save his job but I said that's the debatable record mark

6-6 or worse and he's definitely gone
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SeminOwl28 said

walty12 said

There is no easy formula for programs who just can't go pay the most.

  :Yawn:  :Yawn:  :Yawn:

We pay 1/2 the salary to our HC as other CUSA schools do.  Then we have 'fans' who dont even donate to the program who think we should be undefeated every year.  

It's insane.
Posted On: Sep 6th 2022, 9:56 AM #408121

I don't think giving money or not gives you more or less right to analyze how a team is doing.  For the record though I have given to fau

Can you point out the people saying we should be undefeated each year or even win the league each year?

I think wanting a solid program and a coach who can finish above .500 is a good thing to strive for instead of being average at best (and probably worse) like we are now
Posted On: Sep 6th 2022, 1:49 PM #408123



I didn’t point that at you. 

Lol, it was more at my brother who thinks we’re Alabama.

I agree with the above .500.  WT does not deserve another year if he doesn’t finish above .500 this year, no argument from me.

But let’s be realistic, we pay our HC 25% of what UTSA does.  Not Bama, not Ohio State….Texas-San Antonio.

If our program finishes below .500, we better get serious about paying our HC AAC money ($2.5m and increase for staff) to compete at the level we expect.

Teambeer is the most knowledgeable FAU sports fan I know, way smarter than me.
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walty12 said

SeminOwl28 said

walty12 said

There is no easy formula for programs who just can't go pay the most.

  :Yawn:  :Yawn:  :Yawn:

We pay 1/2 the salary to our HC as other CUSA schools do.  Then we have 'fans' who dont even donate to the program who think we should be undefeated every year.  

It's insane.
Posted On: Sep 6th 2022, 9:56 AM #408121

I don't think giving money or not gives you more or less right to analyze how a team is doing.  For the record though I have given to fau

Can you point out the people saying we should be undefeated each year or even win the league each year?

I think wanting a solid program and a coach who can finish above .500 is a good thing to strive for instead of being average at best (and probably worse) like we are now
Posted On: Sep 6th 2022, 1:49 PM #408123



I didn’t point that at you. 

Lol, it was more at my brother who thinks we’re Alabama.

I agree with the above .500.  WT does not deserve another year if he doesn’t finish above .500 this year, no argument from me.

But let’s be realistic, we pay our HC 25% of what UTSA does.  Not Bama, not Ohio State….Texas-San Antonio.

If our program finishes below .500, we better get serious about paying our HC AAC money ($2.5m and increase for staff) to compete at the level we expect.
Posted On: Sep 6th 2022, 4:38 PM #408129

Agree with the last part and we should.  I said at the time getting a coach for cheap was part of it and that's troubling.  
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SeminOwl28 said

Owls2013 said

SeminOwl28 said

Owls2013 said

faufan300 said

Had no ideas about the injuries, but I believe we have raw pure talent. A good coach can coach up their second and third stringers.  This is off topic I had a coworker that played for Taggart at WKU and he literally told me he was terrible.  Nobody took him seriously there, soo there you go those backups could care less.  The calls were bad and Perry looked good.  Now Mccammon is a workhorse,  I wonder how dynamic the offense will be with Ford.  If ford doesn’t play in the UCF game we are in trouble.  I loved the fight,  I think that was more Dearmon.
Posted On: Sep 5th 2022, 5:45 PM #408113

Yes, because you can simply coach up back ups with little game experience to become guys Evan Anderson and Jaylon Joyner who have years of starting experience in just one week. And you know this because what a guy said at work about the head coach from over 30 years ago….
Posted On: Sep 6th 2022, 8:18 AM #408119

Taggart coached at wku just 10 years ago in 2012.  

Posted On: Sep 6th 2022, 1:15 PM #408122

You just complained about the team possibly going 8-4 this season. 8-2 Is solid good considering 2 games built in vs P5 programs (UCF soon to be and ahead of most P5)


Posted On: Sep 6th 2022, 3:30 PM #408124

No.  I said if they go 8-4 or better he will definitely be coaching here next year.  Doesn't mean I think he's a good coach.  

They can go 7-5 beating teams that are nothing special because teams 5-11 in cusa aren't very good this year and they have a chump fcs team this week

7-5 could be this :

Charlotte
UTEP
Middle Tennessee
Fiu
Rice
North Texas
Chump fcs

Losing to every team with a pulse.  To me that shouldn't be enough to save his job but I said that's the debatable record mark

6-6 or worse and he's definitely gone
Posted On: Sep 6th 2022, 3:43 PM #408128

Most college football programs seasons are filled with "games we should win'' 2-4 50/50 games and 1-2 you have no shot. To me the 50/50 games are @UNT H UAB H WKU win 2 and that's 8-4 win 3 and its 9-3. Getting on a G5 program for winning most of the games they should is just wild.

FAU has had two double digit win seasons in their FBS history and one of those we lost to Buffalo and got trounced by Navy.

7-5 Would be a little disappointing but that would be fine since its moving in the right direction. Currently have a good recruiting class in C-USA and with covid waivers the team only has like 7-9 true seniors. 80 percent of this team with come back even if some guys transfer out after the season. Take another step at that point. Lets get to 3-3 and 2-0 in C-USA heading into the bye and get some guys on D back for the conference slate.
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SeminOwl28 said

walty12 said

SeminOwl28 said

walty12 said

There is no easy formula for programs who just can't go pay the most.

  :Yawn:  :Yawn:  :Yawn:

We pay 1/2 the salary to our HC as other CUSA schools do.  Then we have 'fans' who dont even donate to the program who think we should be undefeated every year.  

It's insane.
Posted On: Sep 6th 2022, 9:56 AM #408121

I don't think giving money or not gives you more or less right to analyze how a team is doing.  For the record though I have given to fau

Can you point out the people saying we should be undefeated each year or even win the league each year?

I think wanting a solid program and a coach who can finish above .500 is a good thing to strive for instead of being average at best (and probably worse) like we are now
Posted On: Sep 6th 2022, 1:49 PM #408123



I didn’t point that at you. 

Lol, it was more at my brother who thinks we’re Alabama.

I agree with the above .500.  WT does not deserve another year if he doesn’t finish above .500 this year, no argument from me.

But let’s be realistic, we pay our HC 25% of what UTSA does.  Not Bama, not Ohio State….Texas-San Antonio.

If our program finishes below .500, we better get serious about paying our HC AAC money ($2.5m and increase for staff) to compete at the level we expect.
Posted On: Sep 6th 2022, 4:38 PM #408129

Agree with the last part and we should.  I said at the time getting a coach for cheap was part of it and that's troubling.  
Posted On: Sep 6th 2022, 4:41 PM #408130

We pay Willie so little because anything we pay him would subtract from his fsu buyout. They still pay him roughly $3.5 million a year. Would have been $4.25 million if not for us paying him.


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At this point seeing how poor D was Sat. in 2nd half, I would be glad with 7-5 but think 6-6 more likely. I hope we get healthy and learn and improve, this weeks game is bell weather for year to me. We don't do well then…….

With Charlotte looking so bad we don't know anything really yet. And don't get me wrong, losing by 3 on the road not a disaster just not what could/should have been!
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NJOWL said

SeminOwl28 said

walty12 said

SeminOwl28 said

walty12 said

There is no easy formula for programs who just can't go pay the most.

  :Yawn:  :Yawn:  :Yawn:

We pay 1/2 the salary to our HC as other CUSA schools do.  Then we have 'fans' who dont even donate to the program who think we should be undefeated every year.  

It's insane.
Posted On: Sep 6th 2022, 9:56 AM #408121

I don't think giving money or not gives you more or less right to analyze how a team is doing.  For the record though I have given to fau

Can you point out the people saying we should be undefeated each year or even win the league each year?

I think wanting a solid program and a coach who can finish above .500 is a good thing to strive for instead of being average at best (and probably worse) like we are now
Posted On: Sep 6th 2022, 1:49 PM #408123



I didn’t point that at you. 

Lol, it was more at my brother who thinks we’re Alabama.

I agree with the above .500.  WT does not deserve another year if he doesn’t finish above .500 this year, no argument from me.

But let’s be realistic, we pay our HC 25% of what UTSA does.  Not Bama, not Ohio State….Texas-San Antonio.

If our program finishes below .500, we better get serious about paying our HC AAC money ($2.5m and increase for staff) to compete at the level we expect.
Posted On: Sep 6th 2022, 4:38 PM #408129

Agree with the last part and we should.  I said at the time getting a coach for cheap was part of it and that's troubling.  
Posted On: Sep 6th 2022, 4:41 PM #408130

We pay Willie so little because anything we pay him would subtract from his fsu buyout. They still pay him roughly $3.5 million a year. Would have been $4.25 million if not for us paying him.
Posted On: Sep 7th 2022, 7:37 AM #408136

That's my point as to one of the reasons they hired him.  He came cheap.   They gotta show me they want to try to win going forward
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